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Models And Actors Only: Why?

Discussion in 'Managing Your Board' started by [&] sydlet., Feb 17, 2011.

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    Elsa's Corset 1000 years old and lost track of my moral code.

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    I'm sure I've asked this before, but...I don't think I've asked it of the admins. Why do you only allow models and actors for playbys? I know sometimes playbys have to be appropriate for the setting, but in a modern, everyday setting, why would you disallow the use of musicians, scene queens, ect? I once was told it would be too 'awkward' to use a particular playby if the admin could not find enough pictures of them. Another site says that PBs have to be well-known.

    I'm curious. Why would you put in this rule whether or not members found it to be hampering their creativity?
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    I don't stick to models and actors, but whenever I make a site, I ban all play bys who are not celebrities. If they aren't already in the public eye and know that their pictures are out there (so models, actors, musicians, politicians, etc.) then by using them as your character's face you are putting them in danger.
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    Same as Emilita.

    I get a lot of unknown models and very little known actors. I myself use a Norwegian Musician so I guess my rule is "PBs in the Public Eye Only". One I run a real life board and so having someone use a cartoon/drawing would take me personally out of the game when posting and I know a few other people are like this too.

    Secondly, if I can't google and get a wikipedia page that explains you are someone who appears on red carpets at any given time (like musicians, models, and actors do) then how am I to know this isn't some unsuspecting person from myspace/facebook? Celebrities and models have pictures taken of them TO be distributed as many places as possible to advertise themselves because they are a brand. Bobby Sue puts their pictures up to share with their friends. I know I wouldn't want my face plastered all over the internet right now. I don't even let my friends put up pictures on facebook unless I see them first (at least ones I'm in). But if tomorrow I ran for office and put myself out on the public stage then go ahead and use me as a face claim.
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    Pretty much what's been said. I've seen boards who ban musicians, and I really don't understand why. They use their image to promote their work just as models and actors do.

    Maybe it's because the focus of their careers are not on how they look, but on the music they create? :/ Not that it holds true, really. Like I said, image is a huge factor whether we wish it was or not.
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    This is kind of how I feel about it, coupled with the fact that it just feels a little wrong to see someone who's not recognized. We insist on some kind of celebrity on our site, but it's for these types of reasons.

    People who disallow musicians and stuff are usually looking for a certain look to their site. Same reason there's sites out there that only allow models. They want everything to look uniform. Personally, this seems kinda freaky and counter-productive to me, but that's the thought behind it.
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    IDK, I find it to be a horribly dumb rule.

    I mean, what if you have a site set in a fandom where there are aliens? What about those high fantasies? You'd be limiting the number of species that are able to be played because of such a rule.
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    I agree with this. Image plays a larger role than we'd like to admit. Also, like Sadiekins said, if you can't google a particular person and find enough info on them then they might not be a celeb at all. So I figure most admin's like to play it safe and require well known PB's (such as models/actors) instead of a wider range.
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    1. It's called photo manipulation. There are people who can do it.
    2. I have never seen a site with lots of playable races who don't look mostly human require RL play bys.
    3. What does that have to do with limiting RL play bys to models and actors or celebrities in general? It hardly matters if a human play by is someone famous or someone no one has heard of: they're still not going to look like an alien.
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    I've seen a primarily alien site with only human PBs allowed. It was awful x.x Almost every alien looked exactly like a human, but with fancy powers.

    I don't understand why non-celebrities aren't allowed. I can understand it if it's a random person who might not want their face used for such a purpose, but if there's permission given, why not?
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    Oh, that's awful. >_< Sure, the aliens I play look mostly human, but there on a fandom board and they're supposed to look mostly human and over half the races don't look human.

    Permission is really hard to prove. I mean, you can give me some note or something and claim it's them giving you permission, but that's really easy to fake. Even websites "by the person in the photo" can be set up dishonestly. Even then, if they're under 18 I don't think they can legally can consent. I think that their parents have to be the ones to consent to use of the photos. It's just simplest and safest -- for the board and for the subject of the photo -- to disallow all but famous faces.
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    There was some girl on myspace who got stalked by the kids from 4chan, not just on the internet, but people came around to her house and threatened to rape her and stuff like that. I can't remember her name, but I recognise her face when I see it, and it's often used by RPers.

    She has asked for anyone who has her pictures to be take them off the internet, even though she gave permission for them to be used initially. That's why I wouldn't allow unknown people.
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    Are you talking about Jessi Slaughter, or did this happen to someone else too?
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    No, I think it was someone else. I think her name was Casey or something.

    But I don't think it's important who it was. What's important is that permission to use somone's picture once isn't irrevocable, and isn't permission to save it onto your computer and use the picture whenever you feel like it.
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    Well, then, that just sort of goes to prove the point, doesn't it? Jessi Slaughter got death threats and such, and this Casey girl got threatened ... using a non-famous person is simply not safe for the person being used.
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    Agreed. I believe something similar happened to Zoe Kimball as well, and she requested her images no longer be used on the internet. It's primarily for that reason that I disallow e-famous people, which does preclude a lot of scene people, but not all of them.

    As well, there are some celebrities, like Frieda Pinto, who have specifically requested their images not be used, so I don't allow those people to be used as faces either. However, if the person is an actor/model/musician/in the public eye person who hasn't requested their picture not be used, I'm totally fine with it. (I won't join model's only sites cause I have yet to find a single model that fit the look of any of my characters. Mostly because they are way too skinny.)
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    I fully agree with it. On my site, there are from actors (Hollywood and non-Hollywood, present and past, stars and featuring ones) to models, singers, sportsmen (eg a famous bullfighter for a NPC Spanish sailor) and even an European princess.
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    :( I heard about that too. It just goes to show how many psychotic freaks there really are on the internet, and how close they can be to you, whether you realize it or not.

    So basically, I believe that using the face of anyone who is not intentionally using their own image to make a career for themselves (with actual monetary gain) should not be used as a PB. Internet celebrities really shouldn't be used unless they somehow make it big and start being featured in other media and start getting paid for their work.
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    Like Tila Tequila! She was in at least one movie (that I've noticed) and gets on the news and had a reality show and everything. She's moved from "internet celebrity" to "celebrity" because she's crossed over from being internet-only.

    Of course, you'd need a very specific character to use Tila. XD She's something of a character herself.
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    Huh, i hadn't actually thought of reality stars before...I'd feel kind of weird using one for a PB, but I guess they'd technically count as paid celebrities...
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    It's a little beyond just a reality star for Tila, because she also does modeling, singing ... um, everything she can get attention for or get hired to do, entertainment-wise. But I'd definitely be more comfortable with someone who was one one reality show once than an internet celebrity.

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