Title: Problem Member
Description: gggrrrr
Kwentra - August 28, 2008 08:53 AM (GMT)
It is time for another rant from me. I really must cut down or you guys are going to get a really bad impression of me. heh.
Anyway, I have been running my site for some time now and everything was going well until one member joined. His character was fine to be accepted (eventually, after we made him tone down the power) but as soon as he was accepted he started casuing problems like murdering people in broad daylight and expecting to get away with it. To cut a long story short his character was arrested (which I am still suprised he accepted) and taken to the holding cells, my character at the time was in charge of justice and such and he did everything he could to avoid his punishment. Now, I am a fair player, I don't like killing characters off (even if they deserve it) so my knight offered to make a deal, find out who the chap worked for and reduce the sentence. My knight made every attempt to give him a deal to keep himself alive, he refused and kept trying to make physically impossible escapes (I won't go into detail but all of the admin/mods on the site voided each one - one for example was pushing a heated metal sword through a guards body into stone....) Finally, after accusing me of abusing my Admin position and making complaints to the other staff about me, one of them talked him into accepting his fate and starting again.
So, he invents a new character, a human, but with stupidly enchanted armour. Apparently his new character is "The best swordsman in the world" despite being only 23 (or similar) - still in a land where there are many races I knew that would not last for long so I accepted the application and welcomed his character to the board. Suddenly out of nowhere this new character happend to be best friends with his old character, the one that my character had executed. So he brings up this whole grude again.
Again my character and his have come to blows, mainly because my character serves as first knight and his wished to join the ranks of the knights and yet he refused to take any orders for my character. Of course, my knight, as you would expect does not take kindly to squires being insobordinate, so he reprimanded him. Now for no reason at all this chap decides to make a challange to my character, which he does without the consent of the Queen.
So that's the background, basically he just likes to go out of his way to irritate me. I can understand our characters coming to blows if it is for a good reason but he wanted to make his character a knight, he chose to do that and then decided to just ignore the orders of my knight. I doubt it would have been the same if someone else played my knight. He is taking his personal feelings toward me and the situation with his old character and projecting it into the whole game. Every time his character is near mine he has to show some sort of power display, using his enchanted swords etc.
It drives me mad.I am not the only person on the site that is fed up with it. Other members have messaged me asking if we can just ban him. I am not a ban happy Admin at all, I will only ban someone if they are really casuing issues, as his resentment is only really aimed at me, I can take it, although I might rant at you lot about it. I really am coming to the end of my teather.
The Breed - August 28, 2008 12:58 PM (GMT)
Gosh. I can relate to that!
On a site that one of my very close friend owns, there was a player who kept joining the same character, every couple of months. No big deal, except when her style sampled something like this:
| QUOTE |
| *Looks to someone* Bleh *Looks away and wanders off* |
You have no idea how annoying it is to be in a rp where the person's post consists solely of this. Wait, there's more! This site is a medieval/fantasy based rp and I say medieval because it is biased towards women. Meaning women are LADIES and not run around in the army with men.
This character, however, happened to be an expert swords-person, and she frequented places where the knights and so on would hang out. She would bug the living snot out of my poor knight at the time, and to this day, his partner and he still have a running joke about hooded female women...
Oh yeah, forgot to mention she used to wear a hood ALL THE TIME. TALK ABOUT MYSTERIOUS! OOOOH! And rolled her eyes something chronic >.>
*bangs head into wall*
The last straw was her character suddenly captured in the evil area, and she manages to have a friend suddenly rush in to try and save her. I figure she must have sent him a note in a coconut using a Swallow as its carrier.
Well, maybe an African Swallow.
BLEH.
Point of the story is, you have patience in dealing with members like that. ^____^ Especially since some have issues with the words "god moding" and "power playing"--- meaning they have no idea what either is.
Unfortunately, that won't be your last person to deal with like that. Oh the stories this veteran Rper has... >.>
Lady Hikari - August 28, 2008 03:00 PM (GMT)
Ewwww. D: Horror stories!
>> I'm interested. Please tell me more about horrible members.
But to answer the question, if he doesn't cut it out after you telling him to follow the rules, then he deserves a ban. Just because he can't get his way that doesn't mean he can walk all over you and your character expecting nothing to happen to him. Remind him of what a god mod is and just ban him for a day or so. Maybe he'll get the point that your serious. I donno. That's what I'd do.
Silvae - August 28, 2008 03:46 PM (GMT)
I'd stop roleplaying with him. He's bending rules to the breaking point and he's toeing a fine line between acceptable rabble-rousing and godmode. Not to mention he's being totally unrealistic. If your character is the best swordsman in the world, I sure hope you're willing to roleplay his background and post actively before putting such power to use.
How irritating.
I wouldn't ban him because he hasn't expressly broken the rules... but I'd definitely stop RPing with him. Everytime he started with the unrealistic power displays, I'd leave the thread and not reply. And if he asked, I'd say, "I've already RPed this scenario with you and I know how it ends. I don't want to play it again just so you can get another one of your characters sentenced to death."
If he persisted and did this with other people and their characters, I'd advise them to do the same. I don't play with people who bend the rules in their favour because they enjoy being the centre of attention... even if that attention is not the favourable kind.
Often these trouble makers leave once they realize they can't get a rise out of you. They'll take their awful character and his enchanted sword to another RP where they'll tolerate or even make allowances for his bloated ego.
SunnyPie - August 28, 2008 03:53 PM (GMT)
Wow..
I had a member once, we started rping and in a middle of a thred i had to go to bed, it was morning for him you see, and midnight for me. So in the morning i came on, he wrote something like this
'So and so gets bored and leaves'
I mena like.. what the hell? So stuped
December, Esq - August 28, 2008 05:10 PM (GMT)
Bleh. I've had members who like to irritate me purely for the point of irritating. If I had done things differently (I just let him/her stay on the board, mind you), this is what I would have done (with each repeating infraction):
1. Speak to him verbally about what he is doing wrong. It sounds like you guys have already done that.
2. Give him a warning on his warnometer and let him know that if he doesn't cut it out, the next warning will come with a temporary ban. Make sure you're clear why you're saying this and be polite the entire time.
3. Ban him for a 24 hours. He'll get the point.
4. Ban him for a couple of days.
5. Ban him for three months.
After those three months, if he comes back, he comes back. Either he will have changed and be willing to play by the rules, or he will repeat his poor behavior. If it is the former case, then good for him; I'm glad he learned. If it was the latter case, then ban him for three years or something.
Temperance - August 28, 2008 05:23 PM (GMT)
Ok, one horror story a la me
Man I had an AWFUL member on a board. She took over a canon and her app seemed fine so I accepted it. Then she wanted to play with my character who was rather evil but in a high position in the society. So she PMed me telling me she wanted her character to witness my character kill someone. I was fine with it but when we started playing she picked a very public place for such incident. Okay, I managed to play it so rationally no one would notice the incident. But then the player's writing turned so bad that I had no idea what was going on! I was RPing blind! I did not know where I was and I had no idea what the other character was doing exactly!
She did a MAJOR god-moding move and made it so suddenly my character was chasing her...and she was doing it inside a school apparently! I was like WTF??! Suddenly from an alley, after she kinda attacked my character...and jumped away in the same post so I had little possibilities to react, I was at a school building! At first I didn't even understand WHERE my character was and WHAT they were doing. I warned her about this move and she apologized, editing her post. But they were still in the school building (at least I think so! I was so confused!) and she played the canon soooo out of character and made her attack my character again, and then she would jump away before my character had the chance to react and she just ran away (attack, retreat and running was in the same post in one paragraph!). It was so awfully out of character and confusing that I was horrified. My co-admin and I started immediately plotting taking away the canon from her...she was such a horrible RPer that we both avoided her as much as we could. Her application sample was fine but her actual RP was horrid! I can't get over how bad it actually was!
Annoying was that she was the most active person and around all the time!
:angry:
Kwentra - August 29, 2008 12:10 AM (GMT)
Thank you for the support guys, it is useful to know I am not the only Admin in the world that has been effected by this and that I won't be the last. I've sent him a pretty stern PM and I will simply remind him of the site rules, one in particular that says "Admin decision is final" hehe.
rhiannon - August 29, 2008 12:13 AM (GMT)
Alright, so about two years ago I was on a very long-lived X-men rp site. There was this one character - Spitfire or something.
He dodged everything, had tons of powerful powers, was always right and roleplayed one liners on a semi-lit site. It was so annoying, all of my characters hated him. Yet it was always my characters who ended up getting hurt because he never let himself get injured.
GAH!
blackcanary - August 30, 2008 12:58 AM (GMT)
BAN. BAN. BAN.
Guess who =D
-giggles and runs off-
Kwentra - September 2, 2008 05:19 PM (GMT)
Developments!
Right, so I finally get him to change his post and leave like an actual human being would (not a bad request seeing as his character is human) and he did it with realativly little argument. Just stating that he liked dramatic entrances and exits.
Well, on our board we have a Face Claim list and if someone is planning a character we allow them to reserve a face for a certain amount of time. So, I check it this morning and he has posted on it, planning on making a new character.
Why is it that some of the most active players are also annoying when it comes to playing (see previous rant)
Keeping in mind his track record, do you think it would be totally out of order of me to be really strict with his application and make his character really normal? Every one of his other characters is really good with a sword, or has magical armour or something. I have a worrying feeling this female character he wants to create will be stunningly beautiful, tempting to every male she comes into contact with and have mage powers. That is my guess.
Also, I am concerned that he has started to do what I ask of him when it comes to the rules. I know that may sound crazy but after our run in before he has had a vendetta against me and my characters and now all of a sudden he does as I say without argument? Do you think he is wise to the fact that I am going to be in control of his new character getting accepted or not and doing it to butter me up?
Lei - September 2, 2008 08:25 PM (GMT)
Oi. I feel for you. Lately I've been on some high quality sites, and AoD has all really good members who make my life a happy place, but my friend Chris and I once adminned a board with a member so bad, we referred to him as "The RPer who must not be named."
I usually try to give a shpiel along the following lines to new members who start pulling this sort of crap:
"The purpose of written RPs such as this is to tell a story. It's a game, in that it's meant to be fun, but not like most games in that there is no 'winning' or 'losing.' The aim is not to have your character be the "best" and most powerful, but to write them well and explore interesting storylines with other members. Think of the RP as a giant book, where your character isn't so much the protagonist, as one of a few dozen supporting characters. Sometimes, it's the weakest and most flawed characters who are the most interesting to read about, and can be the most enjoyable to write. I encourage you to try something different with your next character, or to edit your current one to give yourself more options within the board."
I also, if the theme of the RP is susceptible to abuse of power, try to include a section in the profile where players have to list weaknesses more or less proportionate to their strengths. I make it a basic policy to give more power within the game to characters belonging to players who have demonstrated responsibility and decent writing skills.
And I give the boot to god-moders after they ignore a certain number of warnings.