We all know that we can pretty much be whoever we want online. Dateline proves that. Apparently people can also make up fabrications of their own lives on line. Take the real person and add all these mental and physical illnesses over the course of a year--and I'm expected to believe it? I understand 16 year old girls are fickle, but really?

Not to be spreading drity laundry, but let me make a mini-time line of the things she's told me and another good friend [we all know each other through RP]:

-Dad tackled her
-Dad punches her in face
-Gets kicked out, plans to live with sister starting after school tomorrow, then is home that next evening.
-Gets carpal tunnel
-Gets beat up for being "gay" [which, by the way, she's only "gay" online apparently] by some boys at school.
-Tries to kill herself and says she's going to some program type thing that lasts like 5-7 days.
-Gets on her screen name, IMing only me and said other friend, pretending to be her sister who is checking out people on her buddy list. [This is still unconfirmed, but we're about 99% sure of it.]
-Gets online as herself and still RPs lightly, says she's on a girls PSP/using the alloted time of internet at this place.
-GETS LEUKEMIA
-I tell her to stfu and that she's full of it, she doesn't talk to me for a while. She admits to other said friend that she was never in a hospital but that this cancer is real. Communication ceases.
-Is cured in literally like 3 weeks later due to a bone marrow transplant from her sister.
-Communication continues a bit more down the road. Starts complaining about headaches.
-Said friend and I were JOKING about what illness she would have next. I say go ask if she has a brain tumor. Said friend does ask.
-SAYS SHE MIGHT HAVE A BRAIN TUMOR and is getting CAT scans to said friend but says nothing to anyone else.
-Complains to me about passing out and says she might have diabetes.
-And most recently, she's told said friend that she tried to kill herself AGAIN out of frustration and anger and jumped out of a three story window and had been away for the past 5 days somewhere I can't recall.

I PROMISE you that I'm not exaggerating one bit- in fact, I toned it down a bit and probably have forgotten some things.

Mind you, this is all within the past year or so, but REGARDLESS these are some pretty big things to lie about. I started catching on to her attention getting techniques way back when she say her dad punched her in the face. I was like WTF why are you online talking to basic strangers about it then?

She herself is an okay person, we IM still but she hasn't dared said anything to me aside from the diabetes bull crap. By the way, nothing ever came from the brain tumor nor the diabetes, and when she said she had the carpal tunnel she was online all the time, typing away still. I brushed off the diabetes by sending her pictures of LOLCATZ with diabetes captions because if I didn't, I would surely blow up on her.

She's a RP buddy and nothing more, but she's a decent girl aside from her chronic lying. I think her only problem is that she is a pathological liar to people online because you can't prove anything when you're over the internet.

She is one of the many examples of emo's online. I have stories with at least two other people but she is by far the worse. Anyone else have this problem or are emo's just attracted to people like me? [Of all people, me, the psychology studying, medical field-entering, cynical bitch -.- Won't they ever lean to complain to someone who will believe their lies??]

Wow.

I feel for you, I have been through a very similar thing. When I used to RP back in the MSN chat rooms, I used to run a community called Goldenstone, I RPed as a character called Karrow. Karrow was married to a girl called Angel whom was also called Angel in real life too. I used to talk with her online and such and then one day she tells me that she is really unwell and that she has cancer. She said she is still going to carry on RPing until the end though because it is something that she really enjoys and she thinks of us like her family.

One of the plots was that the Queen was going to have an affair with my characters adopted adult son, however, this was decided without my knowledge. I come back after being away on holiday for the weekend to find their characters literrally "at it" in the chat room. I was somewhat suprised and my character reacted accordingly when he found out.

A few days later I had not seen Angel online, I thought perhaps she was hiding out for a while, letting things blow over. Then I get a message from her sister via email saying that she was in hospital and very ill and probably would not last the week. She didn't. I had an email later that week saying she had died.

After something like that happened I was unable to carry on. My character was depressed at the loss of his love and to be honest I was devestated at the loss of my friend. I could not believe it and our little community closed down. One of the traditions on MSN chatroom RP was to have tags. My community tag was GS for Goldenstone. Suddenly a few months later I see another room with a different name but with my GS tag on it. I had to investigate.

I entered the room to find a character there called Queen Angel and her RP Husband was the same name as the adoptive son she had the affair with in our RP. They had broken away and formed their own room. That was not what bothered me. Angel was alive. She had lied to me all along, lied to my friends who ran the community with me and made us all feel awful to hear her news and how she passed, we had made memorial pages for her and such and all felt used.

I could not believe it.

Oh wow. That beats my example. The girl I'm dealing with is just needs to grow out of her attention getting, lying ways. What this girl did was down ride deceiving and cruel. At least the girl I spoke of never tried telling us she was dead. She did exaggerate about her leukemia that I still don't believe in, saying she only had X% of chance to live, ect ect.

But personally I find this Angel girl to be in a far worse place than the chick I spoke of. To fake a death for the sake of......ROLEPLAYING? And what's even more sick is that it seems that she planned it all out.

I really don't understand people.

When I was younger, I used to lie so people thought my life was *better*. I don't understand why people would lie about such devastating things. They are not fun at all, they aren't amusing, they don't make you "cool". It's sad. Why can't they just do these things through RP, and not make people feel bad get mad at them?

Attention seeking I suppose.

With Angel I think she was looking for an easier way to back out of the RP she had involved herself heavily in. I think she knew it meant a lot to me and that I was pretty proud of it, so rather than face it in game she decided not to have to deal with me again.

Have to admit, that made me feel pretty low about myself. I wondered if I really am that intolerant that it is easier to pretend to be dead than deal with me?

Wow talk about going over the extreme.. When I first read it I was going to say "WOW I can relate cause I knew someone that did the same thing!" But the things you are saying really over-laps my experience lol Personally I would have stopped talking to her after the whole diabetes thing!

My problem with this girl I was friends with.. Was constantly boohooing over every little thing. Here is a brief list -.-

-Her dad use to beat her up
-At least five friends had died and she feels the need to express her feelings through RPs such as making them go emo and constantly getting beat up, raped, shot at in two days!
-Her sister doesn't love her or respect her
-Her mommie and daddie hates her
-Uses RPing to escape the horrible things in life
-Tried to kill herself at least twice
-Her boyfriend completes her, without him she would have nothing

But like I said yours goes the beyond extreme, this case is minor lying and craving for attention. XD !! But what I think irked me out of the list most was because she so said and I quote !

Mmmkay? If it were my sister.. that did that to me.. You'd hardly see me nice, and the way she said it.. and how I asked her why she didn't say anything is because she is "too nice". o.0 wtf?

It was things like that, that makes me think she lies on a lot of crap especially about her sister, because she always expected me to go "aww poor you, I wouldn't abandon you!"

Serious issues -.-

Oh my gosh, Kwentra do I have a story for you. I'll make it brief as I don't want to get things too complicated. When I was younger, say about sixteen, I started a somewhat successful Fantasy RP forum called Ideology. I had a few members and I administrated the forum myself. Now the twisted triangle begins. I had three members "Ivar", "Fae", and "Rose". Fae and Ivar were the first to join and they got along really well together in OOC and role-played together IC. I was never close with Fae so I didn't know much about her, but I guess Ivar would talk to her over IM or at least e-mail. - In comes Rose, Fae's real twelve year old sister or so we're lead to believe. Rose was a member of Ideology for a few months and was always moody and depressed when, according to Fae, she committed suicide by hanging herself. Rose never came back to Ideology and what could I do but believe Fae's story?

Fast forward to a couple of years ago. Fae gets knocked up and has twins. By this time Ideology is long gone and I have formed the RP site I'm at now. She is not a consistent member, but pops in once in a while and starts to RP with Ivar again who is now my co-admin. Suddenly he gets an PM or email, I can't remember which from Fae saying that she has had it with the world. Basically she's writing him a suicide letter saying that she wants to go join her sister and that she has always considered Ivar a close friend who was always there for her. Ivar shows me the letter. I'm somewhat indignant. I say that it wasn't right of her to send him a letter because she didn't even know him and why was she then putting that burden on him? It wasn't his fault even though he felt horrible about her death. I was somewhat coarse and explained that if she truly loved his twin children she wouldn't have committed suicide. ----> Days later. Ends up her boyfriend had logged into her forum account and wrote the letter. I still feel bad for Ivar because he honestly believed that she was dead. When things like this happen you don't know who to trust.

EDIT: We have had two members who have had serious life issues: sickness and death. Those two guys I trust though. They're amazing even if one of them is a little annoying at times. xD

Wow. Why do people do it? I really am at a loss for words.

You're not alone, but who knows exactly why. I wonder if the majority of "emo liars" tend to be female...

My god... She sounds like my ex. >.<

It's times like these that I ask myself: "If all this is happening to you, why are you on the Internet instead of telling a living breathing homo fricking sapien?!??!?!"

-cough-

I don't think I've had anyone lie to me about stuff like that . . . and if they have I probably don't remember because I disregarded them as a liar. I've had people tell me RL reason (very vaguely) in order to treat me poorly online. (IE: "I can't do that b/c I have real-life issues going on right now.") But that's really the extent of it.

And I can't blame you guys for being confused--and for believing them for awhile. It's the internet, as you said, and you can be whoever you want to be. I have a theory or two, but I care not to delve into it and sidetrack the thread.

Cut her off. You don't think it's true, you don't like her, you have nothing to lose. Except for some cruel pleasure at hearing her moan, which you might want, I dunno, but if not, just cut her off, end of.

lol Attention seeker much. Could give her some of her own medicen, pretend to be a new rper, get to know her well. Become freinds and play out those events and see how she responds. I bet she has forgotten she said half of them, then you would know for sure she's lying and tell her to stop it, seeing as it's getting a bit lame. I use to write to a girl a bit like that before, claimed a lot fo bad stuff happened to her, to often and random to be true me thinks, so I stopped writing to her lol

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Emo started, believe it or not, as a term for being 'emotional' that goes beyond just having emotions. I'm not in high school anymore and when that stupid phase was kicking in I thankfully was in my last year. It seems little pathetic that a group of people define a single word.

December, Esq, feel free to share your theories. I'm curious now, lol. And that whole "I can't deal with RP because of RL" crap used to piss me off too, mainly when she was the root admin and I was another amin -.-

WildeThing, I pretty much have- she doesn't realy bother me anymore, thankfully. When she IMs me I'll respond back to her. Aside from lying and being a drama queen, she's a decent kid so I feel no need to ignore her. That is until she starts her shit, in that caase I take your advice 100%.

Jay Serge, lol! That, sadly, would take too much effort. While I do care about the lies she spreads, I don't care THAT much to try and catch her in a lie. Next time it happens, I'll simply confront her again and if she reacts the same way, then fine.

And Z.R., when people lie about getting sick or lie about dying [I can't even believe that's happened, I'm not over that o.O] it IS attention seeking. Just like those kids who cut all over their arms then wear short sleeves to school or the people bragging about doing a whole bunch of drugs that they know nothing about. They shouldn't be talking to innocent people online to fuss over them if what they need is to TALK. I'm no certified professional yet and even if I was, it's not like they'd be paying me for my counseling.

You're right when you say to give people the benefit of the doubt, but frankly I'm a cynic and...well, no. If you lie once and exaggerate crap, I'm not going to give people any benefit of the doubt, online or in RL. If they need someone to talk to, I suggest they go to a person they haven't blatantly lied to.

And I don't blame you for going off on someone like that in a C box, lol. I think the reason because of my cynicism is because of the whole lying crap, like you said you HATE the person because a friend got worried about her. No one likes to feel like a fool.

XDXDXDXDXD

I'd play along with it. Just to have fun! Cause that crap is just AMAZING! Hell, if you want, I could come on to just play pretend that I currently have Leukemia or something. Hell, I'd do anything just to mess with that annoying Emo.

You know what, be better than me, because I'm pretty evil.

I would encourage someone like that to carry out the suicide - simply for the purpose of expressing the fact that I know that they're full of shit, and kids like that enjoy their lives too much to actually so willingly throw it away.

She wants the attention, and believe me, she's not going to kill herself if you tell her that. There aren't many people online that actually go through with killing themselves unless a situation is that dire - and if they are, you can believe damn well that they won't be confiding it to people.

I'm telling you this, as someone whose major involves putting up with people who deal with such issues as depression and mental disorders. She's not really going through jack crap, other than maybe Histrionic Personality Disorder.

Don't forget now. Not only SHE got beat up for being gay, though ONLY online, her best FRIENDS got beat up for her online girlfriend! Hello curb stompage and coma for BOTH of her friends??! The school couldn't do anything because they conspire against the lowerclassmen?

A few more?

--She told us her sister DESPISES her and wouldn't even give her bone marrow for this Leukemia that she had and magically cured in three weeks with the bone marrow she was being denied from her loathing sister. However, during the hospital lie, which isn't 95% sure, not anymore at least it's definitely true, her acting as her sister was oh-so-concerned! But wait! Wasn't her sister SO awful? So why portray her as such a sweetheart? The sympathy factor from her friends. Not to mention the fact that none of her real-life friends knew about it. You mention Leukemia to her boyfriend and he says "What?" Something isn't right there.
--The countless times she's twisted her ankle from being thrown down her steps oh-so-forcefully by big bad dad, although big bad dad seems to love her as well. Depending on the day. I find it surprising that if she was THROWN down a flight of STAIRS she didn't end up with a broken bone. Not once. Curious. With all of her diseases and such I would've expected low calcium and brittle bones to be a part of it all.
--Everyone in her life at one point hates her and doesn't care what she's going through. Except for us. Until we disagree with her. Then we're just against her and conspiring and GOLLY we're better friends with each other now than we are with her! How RUDE!


I do know that there are people who really do have diseases. I also realize there are people who live hard lives. Those people are a lot different than one teenager who likes to lie to make her life more interesting. Honestly, you guys, none of the dramatic things started happening to her until everyone started becoming friends around her and she was worried she was being left out. It was all for attention and how do I know that? She came to every one of us and said "Don't tell anyone else please" so naturally, I had to start with rhetorical questions just to find out more information. Then I started finding out she was telling everyone but wanted everyone to believe she was only telling them. Trust. Pure trust. She wanted everyone to think they were just her bestest friend in the whole wide world and nothing would ever tear them apart. Kindred spirits if you will.

Besides, when she OPENLY admits to lying to me about something, it's going to make me wonder what else she lied about.

The window thing? I asked her why the third story since it obviously wouldn't kill her. It was a call for attention IF it even happened and I told her that. It wasn't mentioned again, she suddenly had to get offline for something important and it wasn't mentioned again. Since she can no longer shock us, we don't SEE her online anymore. As soon as we started calling her on stuff, she stopped talking to us all. The shock factor was gone from the equation and we were no longer buying into her obvious crap.

Hmm.

By the way, the other stories here--the girl who pretended to DIE?! What the heck is wrong with some of the people in this world?! I agree with someone earlier (can't recall the direct screen name), I'd lie to BETTER myself! I'd be the richest, best looking, most popular person in TOWN! Apparently sympathy is better? I guess? Perhaps it's just me but I hate pity. It makes me sick.

Okay this all just irks me soooo much.
When I was 11 I started suffering from odd blackouts. I lost consciousness or almost lost it several times a day. Finally I had to go to the doctor to see what it was all about. They ran so many tests that I can't even remember it all. Lots of blood work, blood pressure stuff, heart rate. And Finally they feared that I might have a brain tumor. Imagine how scared that got me! I mean really scared. I had to do MRI and EEG and I was sitting at the hospital for hours and hours. I went through so many tests. Luckily I didn't have a tumor though it is a bit uncertain what was up. My brain just didn't get enough oxygen etc. All these things tooks so many months from my life...

But anyways, it really pisses me off that someone lies about stuff like that because I came so close to that situation and I would not lie about such things because they simply can happen to a person!

The leukemia thing. Our family friends had a daughter who was only five years old. She died from leukemia. It's a painful issue to many people because leukemia is a part of reality. Why do people WANT to have it? It's painful in more ways than just one. Really sad that someone is so attention craving that they would lie about such a serious matter. Don't even get me started on cancer because last year my granny died from cancer treatment because her body just couldn't take it and that was hard time for me. I saw her slowly whither away. Why o why must people do things like claim they have a serious disease? Why??? Then when someone actually has it no one will believe it anymore.

Another person suffers from so many painful diseases that she is going insane. She is now strapped down in a hospital bed and no one knows if she'll ever get up from there. It is so sad to watch these things happen in real life. This woman's past was so tragic that it depressed me as I started to translate her short autobiography into English. And does she talk about these things to people? No. I wouldn't know if I hadn't offered help at translating a random text into English. Her ex husband who she had a kid with beat her up really bad and she left the town without explaining it to anyone, even her sister. She hates men (kind of afraid of them), her parents were alcoholics and fought with each other so many times that she and her sis wanted them to break up. They did and they stayed with her dad who still drunk too much. She got abused, she got harassed by a drunken man who almost raped her when she was only 9, she ran away from that man. I won't even list the rest of the stuff she went through...it's just so depressing and unbelievable (still true though)

And when people claim to have tried to kill themselves...argh.

Man. I actually know two people in RL who have tried such. One of them has to go see a shrink several times a week and she has been in the mental hospital more than once, especially after her boyfriend killed himself. She talks to me about those things but prefers to avoid the subject. AVOID. Would you like to tell how you have been messed up and in and out of the nut house? No. Probably not. And this is a girl who told me that I would have reasons to be messed up but I really am not. I've had my rough times but I do not like discussing about them. Once I have told her about some of it but only superficially and I really don't want to go there. By the way I really don't think my past was that tragic but she seemed to think there was something in there.
I know many people who have mental issues and it is not fun nor is it cool and interesting for those who experience it. Nor is it cool for me, especially if I'm close to those people.

People who are going to commit a suicide probably won't boast about it. Most don't really.

I realize it is easier to talk about things online but many who really have been through stuff do not like talking about such so much. You will most likely be able to notice which ones are just plain emo. And I really hate them. I really do:

I have an online pal who claims to be gay and at one point she was into wicca, now she's into Buddhism and she has incredible family drama. She might be telling the truth about family drama but rest of it sounds a LOT like attention seeking behavior. She wants to be different and will find ways to be like that. She claims she gets into fights punching people and I don't see why would anyone want to be like that because I believe she is lying. I'm just a bit offended that she's picking out things to make herself "cool". It's like she didn't have respect for those who are really like she describes herself.

People being disrespectful like that is hurtful and they cause unnecessary pain to those around them. I just hate these fake people who play out their life with such drama! :rawr:

I know people with real drama in their lives, my mother knows even more of those people, not to mention my grandmother. If I was to write a biography it would be filled with unbelievable stories (most of which wouldn't be about ME). And I consider it rather distasteful that people write they have a tragic life even though they don't. What would these people do if such tragedy would suddenly hit their life? I bet they would not like it to be there! I bet they would regret their idiotic lies! I certainly could do without the drama in my life. Tragedies are painful. I like to avoid yapping about them.

HAHAHA *had to quote* that is just so ridiculous XD

*high-fives Jay* Exactly myy thinking!

I absolutely agree with that. It's just sad that these people who lie will then make people diminish those who tell the truth. That's just so wrong.

Eeesh my complaint is long. Sucha long rant that I feel a bit emo XD
*shuts up* *holds in laughter*

Doesn't anyone feel sorry for these people?

They obviously have a serious problem. They aren't telling you these lies because they're out to hurt you, they're compensating for something in their own lives.

Now, I'm not saying that what they're doing is right. And I think it is really sad for all of you who have similar problems or know people with similar problems.

But my aunt is an honest to god hypochondriac. And there is no way it can be just to get attention. Maybe it started out that way, but it can only be a compulsion, because there is no rational thinking involved in her stories.

Now, I have an extremely exotic form of epilepsy. If my mother even mentions it to my aunt, she will talk about my cousin's seizures (I know this doesn't sound like hypochondria, but sometimes she transfers the 'illness" to her daughter). My cousin hasn't had a fit in her life. And she's a year older than me, so she'd know if she was seeing a neurologist.

The way my aunt acts is almost exactly the way some of these people you're complaining about act.


Oh, and whoever compared this to people who cut themselves - please don't. There are probably more people than me on this forum who've self harmed and actually know how complex the emotions behind that activity are. You don't cut yourself because you're hardcore, you cut yourself because you have no other option.

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I do but that feeling is greatly overshadowed by annoyance due to the stuff I mentioned in my previous post. :sweat:

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My opinion isn't welcome thus it's been removed.

Z.R, I just got online and didn't read any of your posts. I'm sorry you feel that your opinion wasn't welcomed :( I surely would have read and responded to your posts and would have been thankful for your contributions.

antisocialist87- I assume you're studying psychology or some variant of it. I am as well, and abnormal psychology is my favorite. And that's why I feel like I'm so frustrated by all of this. I don't want to say I "know better", but honestly I feel like I do, even if it's over the internet. And while I can be a mean spirited person, I wouldn't tell her to go and off herself, even though you and I both know those who want to commit suicide don't speak of it. Well, excuse me, since I know someone is going to disagree with this, 99% of people don't. But if I were to go to her facebook and see all these people leaving her RIP comments on her walls, I can't say I'd be relieved or pleased.

iJoker- See I knew I forgot things!

Temperance- I think you rather hit the nail on the head when it comes to what TRULY bothers me aside from just being lied to over the internet. I'm awfully sorry to hear about your friends and family. People who REALLY experience such things go through a lot, and there's some 16 year old kid online who wants to pretend she has all these things within 3 months for whatever reason. And not only that, but she plays the "who has the harder life" game, and I don't play that. At all.

Vanity- No, I don't feel sorry for these people. And I won't lie, I would probably feel differently if I knew the person in RL but even that would old after a while. I agree they've got problems, I really do, but to tell only your online friends so they can basically worship you until you get better? I'm not being dramatic or unfair- she expects that type of treatment to an extent and I don't like being hand fed bullcrap. A hypochondriac would make sense in her case but it's awfully curious when she only tells people she knows online.

I'm not saying EVERYTHING on that list was lied about. I wouldn't be surprised if she had carpal tunnel because she did used to be on a lot. But to lie about trying to kill yourself and getting caught for it, to have leukemia, get 'cured', possibly have a brain tumor, possibly diabetes all within three-four months? Come on.

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you mention people harming themselves unless it was my comment:

And if that was it, I'm sorry you feel that way, but I find both comparisons very fitting. People who hurt themselves for deeper reasons than attention seeking tend to hide it. Hence the comparison.

Munch- thank you for adding some amusement in the thread. Please see that that is all s/he was doing, I doubt that Much was trying to specifically offend anyone with the 'choices' image. Not to put words in your mouth or anything.

I don't want this thread to turn into one about people cutting themselves, that's so far from what my rant is about.

THANK you for summing it up so nicely ^_^
I was unable to do that. I guess I just have to go through everything the long route hahaha

But yeah, it's rather awful people are doing that. And most people suffering have suffered for years...not for those lousy 3 months. And it is just depressing.

Hahaha maybe someone should go and talk to that gal who said she had leukemia that healed fast and go "And you got cured this fast? OMG you are the cure! It is in your blood! You are the hope of us all! A scientific breakthrough! We are one step closer to the cure of cancer and every horrid illness! I'm sure they have studied you a lot!"

OH OH OH

OH OH

I forgot to mention. I saw the words "harder life game" and it reminded me. If one of my family members has died, two of hers have. If I have a headache, she has the flu. If I haven't been to sleep in twenty hours, she hasn't been to sleep in thirty. It's not even just who's got it WORSE it's like if she CAN'T top you, she refuses to talk to you.

Case in point:

A few weeks ago she was talking to me about something I can't remember but I was going along with it and we had a good long conversation for a few hours. However, a few days ago we were having another conversation (this was about the window jumping .. wow I'm still not over that) and since I didn't seem shocked or just grief-stricken for her hard time, all of a sudden "I can't talk, I have RL to worry about."

That's how it always is. With everything. If we sit there through all of her BS and act sorry for her, she'll talk for hours upon hours, as long as we don't mention something about ourselves. Also, if we happen to have to leave our computers, she acts like it's a major crisis and that us leaving means we don't care about her!

When I first met this girl, she was awesome. She was fun, happy, easy going. Then apparently conversation was getting dull and we weren't talking anymore. Hence first problems. Well then it got dull again. Bigger problems. Then I just started getting annoyed so I TRIED to stop talking to her as much, afraid that she was getting TOO close to me because she NEVER seemed to get offline and she WOULDN'T let me go. It got very obsessive and kind of scary. So I tried to distance myself, remind her that she did have a real life and real friends, tried to reinforce the fact that she didn't actually know me. Then a note showed up on facebook. I'm not going to go into what it said because it officially creeped me out. I got a job and she started having more and more problems! If I had to go to bed for work in the morning -- a 7 in the morning shift I mind you which meant getting up at 5:30 -- she was MAD when at 2 in the morning I said I had a migraine and still had to work because SHE needed me here and SHE couldn't believe what I was doing to HER.

Despite all of that, I remained friends with her. It seemed as though her problems were ceasing, that she was calming down. I didn't make the connection then but this was about the time I quit my job and started spending more time online again.

So what do I think her problem is? She needs attention. Feeds off of it. As long as someone is talking to her and as long as she's on top and thinks you're her best friend in the world, she's perfectly fine and healthy. However, the minute she starts to think that Stars May Collide and myself are talking too much, a new disease pops up. It's like she thinks that the more that's wrong with her, the closer we're going to flock to her. She actually told us once that we weren't allowed to be good friends because SHE introduced us and that just wasn't fair to her.

EVERYTHING is about this girl. It doesn't matter how anyone else is feeling, what's going on in anyone else's lives, it just doesn't matter. Attention must be focused on her at all times or it's just not right. Not fair. Not nice. Not supportive. Not this or that. I couldn't tell you how many times I "should've been a better friend" or how many times she "thought she knew me better than this".

My point? Okay well, I'll admit I TOTALLY lost track of my point WAYYYY up there ^^ somewhere. I'm just ranting now. But hey, this is a rant board right?

Oh yes, that game. I've been through that game so many times. It really is just a way for her to refocus the attention on her, get pity and so on. She wants to be in the spotlight and never share it. I can't understand people like that. And not allowing you to go to bed is very self centered! Jeeeez! "I neeed youuuu" *imagines the whining and has chills running up and down her back*

I personally would like to hear how other people are doing, if they won't yapp about themselves THEN I will yapp about me, ask questions, yapp about life and things I've noticed etc...But I like listening.

It takes two to tango but these certain people seem to prefer dancing with a mirror.

Hahaha, they do, don't they?



My "horror" story with an online liar certainly doesn't top the girl who faked her DEATH but the person still pesters me to date.


About 2 1/2 years ago, I had created a new character for an RPG. Mine and another character kind of got together and became bf/gf during a site event. Well, writing romance threads, obviously you kind of get to know the person behind the character. We chatted and became good friends. She was 14 and in high school. As time went on, she told me about how her dad beat her- one day he pushed her down the stairs, another he pinned her to the floor and punched her unconscious. Stuff like that. When she typed about it, it seemed kind of reserved- like it was possibly true. I was gullible and bought into it.

Fast forward a few months and I decided to open my own board. I asked her along as my first admin and she came. The board quickly flourished and we eventually moved from ezboard to invisionfree (best day evar!). A few months after we reopened on the new site, she created a new character with a very well written biography for her (she never had the best English skills- I attributed it to her being young...). Well, a week later, I got a PM saying that the biography had been ripped. It had been ripped from one of our own characters! The bio had been left on the old board and she applied with it on the new board.

Well, I instantly banned her, under pressure from my other members and really, for the better in the end. I, at first, was hesitant but it ended up being a good decision. Well, periodically, since she earned a LIFETIME ban, she will email me asking if she can be let back, can she come back, surely she has earned the RIGHT (wtf?) to come back by now, etc.

Wanna know the kicker? She wasn't a 14 year old high school student. I learned, of my own accord and after confronting her, that she was a 34 year old single welfare mother of 5. Being she'd told me her father beat her and stuff, I'd worried about her often. Naturally, I was pissed when I found this out, fueling my intentions of never letting her back on my board.


Like I said, definitely doesn't top the faked death. Still pretty annoying though.

Oh maaan that's pretty ridiculous. Why would a grown person do that? It's just pathetic! And you did right banning her. It's the rule and when you break them you gotta be ready to face the consequences.

Faking one's death is pretty extreme. Horrible. I've only once told people I'm leaving the board because of issues in real life. That was when my grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and I wanted to focus more on that and y' know, spending time with her. (Sadly she wound up dying) And I did leave a board because of exams just recently. I just realized I have to cut back something and it wouldn't be fair for me to spand over a month away from the board, which was very active, and keep people waiting. But faking one's DEATH? A bit too much.
R i d i c u l o u s.

I hate lying in general, and I hate that people lie more on the internet just because they can. I mean, lying to protect your identity and be safe is one thing. You obviously all know that my legal name isn't Little Mouse. ;) Hyperbole for the sake of story telling is also understood. But I can't people stand making stuff up about themselves to get attention.

There's a girl I RP with who lies a lot, but never about big things like cancer or abuse. She makes up stuff to make herself seem more interesting or intelligent. The only way you really know she's lying is by paying attention to what she says, because she usually doesn't remember her little white lies and ends up contradicting herself. I'm not going to give specific examples, because a few people here on RPG-D know her and I don't want to create problems. I just want to get this off my chest.

She's a lot younger than I am and is generally a nice girl. She's obviously intelligent, but her intelligence has made her arrogant. She loves knowing things other people don't know. She condescend and it takes all my will power not to tear her to pieces. Because, really, it's all just little stuff. And it just adds up. Nobody else really notices or cares, so I try to ignore it too. But it is HARD. She thinks she is better than other people because of the music she listens to, the classes she takes, and the life she lives. She acts like being an American is so bourgeois and beyond her, despite the fact that SHE IS AMERICAN and we actually have several people on the board who don't live in the States- none of which act like her. She not-so-subtly brags all the time and wants badly to be in a position of power on the board. She's been a member a long time and feels like she DESERVES to be "in-charge." Luckily, she made her lust for power fairly apparent in the past, so the root admin passes her up every time a new position opens up. She always one-ups. If I haven't slept all night, she hasn't slept in two days. If I had a busy day, her's was three times busier. NO ONE else on the board is like this. Everyone is nice to her, and she is acts like she is nice to everyone. Except that she's thinks she's better than everyone else and will passive-aggressively let you know. She is probably the most passive agressive person I know and I hate it. ARG.


Okay, rant over. Thanks, rant board. Also thanks for letting my terrible paragraph structure slide for the moment.

To be honest guys, I can't bring myself to mash someone to the ground just because I think they're lying. I'll do what I can to get away, but I'm not just going to shove it back in their face.

Heard the story of the 13-year-old girl who commited suicide after her one internet friend told her that she was worthless and meant nothing? (Truth though that the guy was really an ex-friend's mom and family making fun of her.) But the point is, you don't know who you're talking to and you don't know how unbalanced mentally they are. It doesn't excuse their behavior, of course; I am all for taking responsibility for one's actions.

Now, if I know the person a little better, I may try to purposely confuse them or something, but I try to refrain from punching them in the gut, if you know what I mean.

(And this was in response to a bit earlier in the conversation.)

Dec- I agree with you. Although there have been time's I've wanted to give her a taste of her own medicine or egg her on, I couldn't bring myself to do it. Instead, I gave her the truth on how I felt about it [during the leukemia thing] and I think that might have gotten to her more than any lie I could have came up with would have.

Little Mouse- Oh, no, sound like one of those elitist RPers. Those are by far among the worst member types. And you also really nailed how I feel about the lies:

I think that too is a major source of my frustration.

Catalyst- Wow, that's a pretty bad liar. As much as I hate to give out excuses, I REALLY hate it actually, the person I speak of at the very least as the cover of being a teenager. I'm not saying that every 16 year old girl is some liar online or anything, but she's got the benefit of being able to brush it off later in life saying 'Oh, I was just a dumb little teenager'.

Temperance-

I'm very much the same way, and in all fairness to the girl I speak of, I don't mind her talking about her woes, whatever they may be. It's when they are 1-down right unbelievable, or, as I said, 2-If I have a headache, she's apparently got a brain tumor.

I dislike liars and it's actually a shame that people on the internet seem to take lies to another level, to where it's just pathetic. I try not to get too involved with anyone because I'm never sure who to trust, so I kind make it clear and say: "Yes, I'm your friend. Occasionally, I'll listen to your real life problems, but I would really rather not." just like I don't usually share mine. To me, what real life issues I have had are very real, but to someone who only knows me from the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if they called me if liar if I told them. But when I first started roleplaying, about three years ago, I joined this very simple, basic rpg, and made some friends there. Eventually, I became so close with some of the other members until we were like a tight knit online family, in a sense. Well, one day, this guy joined the board. His writing skills were terrible and for some reason, I was just quickly annoyed with him from day one, but instead of saying anything, I just kept my distance. So, he became friends with a lot of members, mostly those who were part of my little "inner circle", and started coming up with the most ridiculous stories I have ever heard.

First off, his father would beat him and even once had put him in the hospital after a severe beating. He said that he was abused on a daily basis just because his father hated him. While everyone was showing him pity, I was just still keeping my distance because he and I didn't talk, so I guess he disliked me as much as I disliked him. One lie he told that made me LOL for about an hour was that the barn at his house was on fire and he jumped from his sixth floor window, ran to the barn with a twisted ankle, managed to save all the animals, but got stuck in the barn himself and had to dive out of one of the burning windows. That was just -- excuse me, LOL! -- ahem, it was just so hilarious and random. I wish all of his lies were like that one, but they weren't. Some of them were really hurtful towards the members who actually trusted him. One of my friends had gotten really close with him and they were sending each other pictures and saying 'I love you' and all of that. All of a sudden, he brings in one of his friends, a girl, and everything about their writing was so similar until I knew they were the same person.

Apparently, I was the only one who noticed the similarity. So, both the guy and the girl stayed on the board and claimed to be friends and that they lived in the same location. Okay, fine, until the girl starts claiming the same things as the guy. She was getting severely beaten by her father and was so depressed until she wanted to kill herself because then she found out she had cancer, and would die in six months. She even once made a fake myspace account, put some pictures of an old man up for the profile pictures, and spammed her original myspace, to make everytone think some old man was stalking her, so they would defend her. As for the guy, all of a sudden, he gets hit by a car. No cancer, no abusive death - he just gets hit by a car. So, another one of his friends comes online and sends my friend, the one really close to the guy, an email about how he's barely hanging on. That continued for about three days, until he died. I'm appearing heartless to everyone else because I wasn't carrying on like they were, making RIP graphics and topics dedicated to this guy.

The girl was still on the board and she became really close friends with everyone except me. Everyone then started pitying her, until I mentioned my suspicions to one of them. Turns out, this girl had a webcam, so we knew for sure that she was girl, but she was supposedly getting abused everyday, except when someone saw her on the webcam, she looked perfectly normal. Not a bruise in sight. A lot of us became suspicious behind the scenes, but we couldn't prove it until she made a big mistake. About two months after the guy had "died", he suddenly came back, not to life, but back from Japan. Wtf? That finally prompted the admin to check the IP addresses and that's how we found out that she pretended to be both the guy and herself. As a result, she was banned from the board. Some people forgave her, but some didn't. I just didn't care, but I was more like good riddance.

Other than that one time, I haven't really experienced internet liars, thankfully. They're a pain.

I know what you mean I find some people like to lie over the internet they want pity from others about their life.

hm I often talk about things I feel I can say on the internet but some people do go far to ridiculous with it. I hate it when people do lie about stuff though! On the internet if you want to be trusted don't lie >_> right?

Holy crap what IS it with people lying about DYING?! That just is far beyond my understanding, really. flawed.Perfection, thank you for sharing your story. I'm going to have to keep my eyes out o.O I mean damn.

There is another person I know that has lied about giving birth. She told me and iJoker she had just lost her virginity when she told another friend that, like, a year ago she had a baby. I was like no way, so the other friend starts messaging her, asking her questions about her child and the girl went along with it, saying how old her "baby" was, ect ect. I was shocked.

Ah well. Real life or online, I'm a realist and prefer not to lie -.-

Emo = A desperate way to fit in, or "rebel" against those not letting them fit in.