I abuse capslock in this rant. A lot.

Okay, it's one thing for you to create a character who thinks before they act. It's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT thing for you to create a character who NEVER acts impulsively and NEVER reacts when another character is DELIBERATELY ANTAGONIZING THEM.

Flipping REACT. I didn't create the most annoying character in the universe so your characer could stand there and think about how immature he is. That's not your character, that's YOU. You can deny it as vhemently as you like, but that's mary-suing at it's finest. It's YOUR immaturity of needing to have one-up on somone WHO DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

Ok, hi, I made the character an annoying wanker. I'm fully aware he's an immature brat. Your character's reiteration of that fact does nothing to either my character or me, because NEITHER OF US CARE.

You can keep doing it, and I'll just not bother to play with you again, because you're boring me, your character is the biggest stereotype around, and I have people stalking me for posts who actually know how to RP.

But for God's sake, can you please not ruin the thread any more than you already have? When your last five replies can be broken down to the same basic components, it's pretty obvious you need some new ideas. To wit: 1. <name> is immature. 2. Self-congratulatory waffle about how much less lame <own character> is than <name>. 3. Thoughts on making <name> regret his words/actions. 4. No actual action taken.

Look, there's nothing wrong with conflict. There's nothing wrong with your character creating conflict, or (in this case) reacting to someone who did. If there was no conflict, there would be NO STORY. Get your brain around it and do something halfway interesting with your character. PLEASE.

That's annoying; I know how you feel. I've never had someone who listed "annoying" as their dominant trait, but I have had lots of characters who are supposed to be deceptive and charming, yet because everyone knows their other qualities (by reading their applications), they don't fall for it... even the so-called "naive" and "gullible" ones. I know you can't assume everyone's reactions, but ... yeah, I know what you mean. Annoying!

Gah!!! I know EXACTLY What you mean!!! I have the same problem!!! PEOPLE ARE SO STUPIDDDD. They just want to be liked no matter what so they go on pretending like nothing ever happened. For God's sake MY CHARACTER JUST INSULTED YOU. SAY SOMETHING!!!

I've been lucky enough not to have that problem, but I can see how that would be depressingly frustrating. I think your character should pull out a gun, shoot the other character in the stomach, and be all "Let's see how you react to THAT, bitch!" Fun will be had by all, I promise.

I remember on my first RP I played the Death Eater (HP btw) Rodolphus Lestrange, and someone came along and took over his brother, Rabastan. We got around to thread something in which my char, who was very volatile, obnoxious and impulsive. So when he got pissed at his bro he quickly pulled out his wand and hexed him. The other played had him calmly deflect the spell (despite having left his wand on the coffee table, and despite claiming in her bio that he was the worse dueller of the two), then reprimand him in that 'tsk tsk tsk' serene villain way, and then said that he wouldn't duel my char because he has principles... This is a death eater who killed dozens of people, and what bothered me the most was that she had asked me to work closely with her when creating him so they could be similar in certain ways. One of these ways was their hot-headedness.

What I decided to do was take the humiliation, and keep poking him with things I KNEW from her bio would tick him off to no limit, so I could get the conflict I was hoping for. Nothing. They kept deflecting it in the same manner. In the end the girl who played Bellatrix walked in and took the thread to a different direction, so it wasn't too bad. Had it happened now, though, I'd probably NPC my way out of that thread. There;s no point continuing when your char is doing something, and the other person has basically decided to make it a futility.

I mean, I'd understand if this character was like that, because, there must be people who are, and a bio would explain why this is, and you as a player, can figure a different way to get conflict...; or you wouldn't thread at all, maybe. But when people write a bio, get it accepted, and then morph their characters to suit their selfish desires, it gets me really pissed off. You're basically cheating your way unto a board, and you get to get away with mary-suing for a while, which would have been caught at the app process. You make a char, stick to it. Characters evolve, they don't transform. There's a big difference.

/rant... which is fine?

EDIT: Actually the above idea isn't bad, if you can get away with it, just NEARLY kill them. Miss them by an inch. I doubt anyone can stay calm when someone is about to kill them.

RE-EDIT: At what Sunday said. UGH! I hate that. My character is notoriously mean to girls, stop ignoring that just because the PB is hot! This thing actually gave me the idea to do a physically repulsive character, who although at his core better than the hot mysoginist, was on the surface antisocial, so only slightly better, and see the results... I RPed the mysoginist with 5 different people, all of whom liked him, the ugly guy RPed with maybe 15, and has just as many friends (5)... coincidence?

I understand completely. I once started a role-play with a guy whose character left the scene completely. Just left. His excuse was that my character "wasn't his type". What was the point of even replying? :/
I hate people like that.

OMGIKNOW. Why do people have to be no fun at all? Do they really have too much pride to let their character look bad once in awhile? It's ridiculous. I make my characters look bad all the time. It's more fun that way, or at least I think so. Apparently other people don't. I agree with what Sunday said as well; this goes not just for annoying characters but also charming ones. It's nearly impossible to influence any character in any way because the people roleplaying them SUCK.

Reading things like this, I realize how blessed I am to play with people who love humiliating their characters. xDD

I've come across that in the past, and it baffled me. I mean, half the fun of RPing is the reactions! That's what's interesting, that's what's amusing and fun. I understand having calm, stoic, and disciplined characters, but any real person has a breaking point, something that will set them off like no tomorrow or annoy the SHIZNIT out of them. A lot of the time, they're really dumb, simple things. xD It's what makes us human, and it's the humanity of characters that is interesting.

So when you play opposite a character that never reacts, it's like, eh, might as well be playing opposite a rock.

Though if done right, it's downright hilarious playing a character that is desperately trying to annoy someone who refuses to fall for it--in order to annoy the annoyer. xD THAT is funny. I've played that before, and my character (the annoyer) got so damned frustrated. x3

But that's different. <3

But yeah, I notice that the people who do that, from my limited experiences with it, are afraid of looking dumb themselves. Afraid that if they let their character look like a fool, it's a reflection on their own intelligence. So not true! I can understand that concern, though, because when I was a n00b I did that. I thought if my character looked dumb, people would think I was dumb--which in the end only made me look stupid for not being able to separate the two. @_@ I finally realized that wasn't fun.

Now my characters get made fools of all the time, and at least one is being strung along like nobody's business. I know the other character is a deceptive brat. My character doesn't and sees nothing but goodness and sunshine. It's awesome.

To combat this phenomena so it wouldn't pop up in my games, all over the place I've written stuff about how RP isn't about winning or losing, about how character actions are not a reflection of the player's opinions or intelligence, and things like that. Basically things that encourage players to put their own ego aside and let their characters behave naturally, as real people. :3 Stuff about how it's the reactions that are fun. It's worked, I'm happy to say. People aren't afraid for their characters to take a hit or look like an idiot, and we happily plot and lawl over it all.

OT: Rhi-Rhi: You just reminded (once again) why I sent my friend over to RotE when she went looking for a roleplay <3

BoT:
I know what you mean; partly because I've experienced it myself but also because I've done it myself quite a few times. Not so much when people have openly offended my character or attempted to kill them (there's stoic and then there's dead xD), but I suppose sometimes my characters will react quite... Boringly... In character, but boringly as far as creating drama, chaos or anything else goes XD

But that's partly because I've been stuck in a rut with very similar types of character lately (I'm actually working on a new one, a boy, I haven't roleplayed a boy/male in... Eh, 6-7 years xD So if I find somewhere to roleplay him it'll be amusing to see how that will pan out for me :p

However, but greatest fault as an RPer have always been forgetting things such as "she is naive" or "she is cold" etc. With the exception of my oldest most of my characters have a few traits that I've more or less ignored. That said, most (not all, but most) have evolved and changed from my original idea naturally rather than going from being innocent and gullible to joining the mafia. Though I do have some where naivety has been a major trait and well, they haven't acted upon it at all. I've gotten better though and I've got one character right now that's been described as a snob (on second thought I may not have described her as such, but she has evolved into one xD) and as quite naive (which I've been true to and I'm trying to stick to that like glue until something happens to change that trait or she evolves naturally).

But I do recognize what Rhi-Rhi was talking about, with the player feeling dumb and all. I do feel that way sometimes. Which is odd, 'cause I don't really give much of a damn about anything in RL as far as that stuff is concerned so why the heck I care so much about how my characters might reflect something in me, I have no clue.

That said, I do try to create new and exciting characters and I do try to get them involved and get them into play. However, it's not so easy when trying to get into a roleplay feels something akin to bashing my head against the wall repeatedly. I'm used to being a background player (i.e. I provide the sheep for the wolf to kill, but I rarely play the wolf or the farmer) though when I do attempt to get involved in plots I don't really feel as if I'm: a) taken seriously or b) noticed. (but that's a mini-rant in on itself so I'll leave it there)

However, despite how bad I might be about some things, there's not one of them who wouldn't react in one way or another if someone insulted them or acted like an immature brat. (Those of my characters, who think more, might leave most of their toughest stuff in their thoughts, but they'd still comment/obviously ignore/walk away/hide/something)

This was the very very very first RP lesson I ever got. Don't confuse your character's intelligence with your own >_<

If anyone knows Jodie (she runs Ramath-Lehi and Black Shuck, RaL has been around forever) she's the first person I ever RPed with. Like... ever. Her character was patronizing, irritating, and she did it all while still managing to look cool instead of immature. Needless to say, my character, whose supposed to be the big bad alpha, was feeling mightly ego-bruised. And so was I.

But I learned that having characters react is much more fun. In the end those characters didn't talk too much, but they made plenty of other enemies O_O

Anyway, it is infuriating when someone just doesn't do anything, especially when that's out of character! I mean, if you say your character has a temper, have them fly off the handle every once in a while! Now if she said her character was aloof and doesn't give a rat's tushy about anyone then ignoring the annoying jibes would seem natural but.. eh

(Ooh, I know of Ramath-Lehi! And Vildea! Now I'm curious! xD Who's your friend? <333)

Gyahaha, yeah. xD When I started out yeeears and years ago, one of my characters was a big bad alpha wolf and...gods. No matter what anyone did, he acted unaffected. If anything, he'd just try and one-up them and the prose was all about how awesome and unaffected he was and how much he didn't care. That was basically all me. >_> And when he got demoted, I felt like I was the one being demoted, all ego-bruised and all that. *laughs* It can be hard, so I definitely empathize! Realizing people don't think you're stupid for what your character does isn't always something that just clicks, but is rather something you may just have to gradually learn.

I know what helped me finally get it was when I started talking to people over AIM, back when I first learned AIM existed and people actually used ICQ. :B When I got to talk to people OOCly and saw them joking around about that stupid thing their character did, everyone all friendly and humorous and plotting more misery and embarrassment for their characters with smiley faces and everything--it finally clicked. They didn't think the player was stupid just because their character epically screwed up. They found that fun!

It was an epiphany. :B

It's kinda like the same thing with characters that hate each other. Some players get nervous and think the other player hates their character, too. OOC communication certainly helps there, when you discover that, no, actually the player loves your character. Their character just doesn't. I know when one of my characters hates another character, it always means I absolutely adore that character.

Ohh, and Vildea, I know what you mean. :3 About characters changing. Sometimes I create a character with an image in my head, but once I start writing them they insist on going a different direction. I had one character I intended on being a cruel sadist turn into a goofy, flirtatious masochist once I wrote him. O_o I still have no clue how that happened. Complete 360, but I'm happy it happened. I've also had characters I intended on being nice turn into biatches once I actually wrote them. Sometimes they just wanna do their own thing. xD

And about character traits...sometimes it can be difficult playing a trait if a situation never comes up where they'd behave that way. For instance, naivete. A character could go a long time without displaying that trait in game if a situation where they'd behave in that manner doesn't crop up. :3 Besides, there are different levels of naivete and people are naive about different things.

I wouldn't worry, though! You know what you want to improve on, so that's good! :3 And improvements don't happen over night. I'm always improving, but it's only been in the last like...three years where I can RP without feeling a little embarrassed. xD

...Er, that was a bit off topic. Sowwies. >_>;;

i've filled many a-characters stomachs with minigun bullets, punches, and rude insults, and recieved nothing but blatant ignoring or godmodding, "his body absorbed the bullets" um, seriously? in 2000s england they have the technology to make your body absorb BULLETS? nice try retard. It seems that ignorance and godmodding go hand in hand nowadays, and many rp sites i have been on have been ruined by such things.

and the WORST part? when the admins and mods do NOTHING about it, or how the guy doing it is a mod or admin... seriously?

Roswenth mumbles something about this being a good source for a roleplaying documentation.....