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Title: Very Vexing Admins. X_x
Description: admin horror stories. read at own risk!


Satire.and.Ice - July 21, 2008 08:54 PM (GMT)
Case 1
I joined a high school roleplay only about two weeks before it closed completely. Why did it close? Because the admin was rather a bitch. Now, me and another member had a plot in progress, and so did a few other people. Admittedly the board was not as fast as it could be, but it was slowly coming up on activity, and she deleted it. Right in the middle of everyone's plots. I came on one evening about to make a post and the only thing visible was the cbox. So, being very pissed off, I emailed the admin (who was thirteen, if that tells you anything) about why she closed it. She got an attitude, saying that she advertised news of the site's closing in the cbox and the decision was final. Well, I'M SORRY IF I DON'T SIT IN FRONT OF A BLASTED CBOX ALL DAY. What could it hurt to put it in the dang announcement forum? She wouldn't even give me the email information of the girl I was rping with so that we could maybe finish our plot through email.

Case 2
I'm sure you all know which roleplay I'm talking about here, it's an extremely active high school one. That's all I will say. Frankly, I haven't gotten in a row with any of the admins there, but they still annoy me. They basically rp with themselves and keep refurbishing their characters - and when there's staff nominations, I felt like it was rigged because the winners seemed to be known by the current staff. That's why I left the site two years ago. Mainly because everyone I rped with eventually disappeared after a few weeks. Got too annoying. Now all I go to the site for is to look at the face claim list for ideas when I'm fresh out. :p

Case 3
Ok, this one's short. Joined a site for Grimms characters (not naming which one..) and got denied. Why? Grammar errors and stuff. After I'd spent about two hours on the whole thing. And if I'd had grammar errors, my trusty firefox would have spewed red lines all over the place. Maybe there were one or two typos somewhere, but it certianly wasn't 'full of errors' like they said.

Case 4
This one was a LOOONG time ago. Long story short, all the admins rose up against me, supposedly for something I said against same sex relationships. I apologized like I was on my way to hell, but I really didn't know what I said. Maybe I'd just forgotten, but I'll assure you I've never been a homobhobe, so I don't see why they all suddenly hated me. They wouldn't even say what I did, just kept saying stuff around the lines of 'you know what you did, so STFU'. Eventually the site died, they tried to bring it back, but they died again.
And it was a typical case of admins being all cliquey anyway. They STRICTLY only rped with themselves. It's been a VERY long time, but I still remember. I think I was the youngest on the site, too, but I was literate.

These were just a few things that pissed me off back then...

silent cacophony - July 23, 2008 02:45 AM (GMT)
Eck. I can understand their feelings in the fourth one, some people can get very fired up about it, but by the sounds of it, they didn't handle it too well either. >_<

Man .. here's to you finding a great RPG with admins who don't suck. <333

xing - July 23, 2008 03:11 AM (GMT)
I can understand where you're getting at. Again, I'm going to be using XIN RPing as an example. Mainly because the problems that plague XIN RPing are relative to case one and case two. I can very much empathize with you.

For Case 1

I was wanting to join this RP which I had "nicknamed" XIN 1. It had a higher quality member base than XIN 2. XIN 1 and XIN 2 used realistic fight physics. But a person on XIN 2 who also RPed on XIN 1 talked about the main admin. The admin was bitchy from what I had read. That alone turned me off. Then I brooded a bit on XIN 1 to get more information on the admin. The member was right.

If you criticized the way she did things, you would get banned. From what other members told me, she had an attitude and went all power-trippy. I was still debating whether joining it or not because many XIN 2 players hid behind their stats. Then I learned that XIN 1 got shut down. And I learned more about the admin.

There was a high ranking staffer whose character was in a relationship with her character. The player did some dedication. However, he forgot to mention her character. From what I read, she went off the deep end. She demoted him. Also, she posted hentai pictures she drew of several characters on the board. It was against Proboards policy. Nobody else had the admin authority to remove them.

For Case 2

On XIN 2, staff selection was rigged. On XIN 2, there has always been this one problematic player. He's done a lot of things that should've warrant a banning from the board. Yet, staff never did anything about it. He had a few of the high-level staffers wrapped around his fingers.

He was even a former staffer. The player managed to get away with godding and cheating. Because of the clique, he was given loopholes that he didn't deserve in the first place. Also, the staff and admin of XIN 2 were in a clique as well. No matter how much players complained, staff never did anything about it. In a nutshell, the player "ran" XIN 2. He was the puppet master and the staffers were his puppets. Last year, I saw that XIN 2 was going through a restructuring of staff. The player left and he decided to join and cause problems on my board. Then I managed to get him to leave my board.

My friend who is staff on XIN 2 convinced that player to come back to that board. Soon, my friend became the temporary admin of XIN 2. Sadly, my friend became very blinded by that one member. The member was pulling the strings on everything that went on with that board. Contests and so forth were rigged. Quests were rigged as well in favor of that problematic member. The problematic member also got promoted to staff.

And someone recently hacked into XIN 2 and erased everything. Now, the problematic member has been made the admin. They're coming up with ideas to try to save the board. Members have stepped up to offer help and ideas, but the member (now new admin) pretty much told them to STFU. XIN 2 is now losing a steady active member base.

I can definitely feel for you.

Madame Everard - July 23, 2008 04:19 AM (GMT)
I feel your pain. I loathe cliquey admins. I mean, yes, I have a number of RP friends that I've been playing with for years and know really well, but I try my best not to give them preference over anyone new, you know?

I think the worst problem I ever had with an admin was when I joined a Marauders era site and applied as Sirius Black. There was another Sirius Black applicant, and after reading their app I thought I was a shoo-in. It was the worst, most un-canon Sirius I have ever seen, where (I kid you not) the two most important things were Sirius's sex life and his concerns that the women he slept with weren't in love with him. I believe the appearance section even said "Sirius's life begins and ends with his looks." Sirius might have been vain, but I'm sure there was more to his life than that.

Anyway, I believed my app was as close to canon as I could get, and it was just as long, just as literate as the other applicant's. However, mine was denied and the other was accepted--and I was hardly surprised to find out that the applicant was friends with, not just the admin, but a lot of people on the board. When I contested the decision as politely and respectfully as I could, I was told that I was a bad writer and needed to work on my character development.

Obviously I was sort of biased in that situation, but there are plenty of cases where admins accept the applications of their friends for canons over better ones by new people, and it annoys the crap out of me.

Z.R. - July 23, 2008 06:27 AM (GMT)
I'm pretty much guilty of favoritism when it comes to staff. Someone who talks to me more, who I can get to know more, than someone who barely talks at all is always higher on my list than the latter. However, most of my staff members I've also known for 2+ years. It's just at rust thing there.

In all other areas; I'd never do that. I'd never choose someone I know over someone I don't who is better for the character/etc.


I stopped joining sites a long time ago. The last one I had a problem with an admin on was a wolf RP. There was an ongoing plot between my character and two friends characters. The admin stepped into it and picked a fight with my character. It ended with the admins complaining that they need to 'translate' my post and me and my friend both got booted for being 'too advanced'? o_O I admit it, I liked the thesaurus back then, but it was easy to get the gist of. I didn't use words that didn't make sense or anything of the sort. They were extremely immature about it and the admin was a real female dog, to put it bluntly. She continued to say we 'tried to take over the site' (yeah, because her character picked a fight -.-) and apparently ranted about it a lot.

Of course one of those friends chose her side. Which was really frustrating. Everyone knew this girl was.. well not nice. The site eventually died because of her and someone who had a grudge against her. Big surprise.


That's really my only bad experience with an admin ^-^

December, Esq - July 23, 2008 06:33 AM (GMT)
Oh man. Dude. I feel your pain. I've been on sites with some of the most brutal admins. The most recent event pissed me off because the site is still open. *sighs* I guess not all bad boards die; the good do not always triumph in the end!

xprincessgwenythx - July 23, 2008 06:54 AM (GMT)
I think I know exactly which RP you are talking about on Case 2. I had the same problem when I was on that board. If it's the one I am thinking of, their was an original board that this one was practically stolen from. The head admin was a mod on the first board and stole all of the members from the first board because she disagreed with one of the admins. Now she is a dictator on her own board. I hate it when admins say one thing and do another. They claim to not be cliquey, but they only rp with other staff and people they talk to in their group, which is about ten people. The board is filled with people who are desperate to get into that group, which you never will. And the only people they hire as staff are people who suck up to them and worship the head admin for at least a year. then they MIGHT get to be an elite, but if they manage to become an elite, they still have to grovel to keep the possition. /end

blackcatluvr - July 23, 2008 07:06 AM (GMT)
Case 1:
Wow. That's really messed up. If I ever closed one of my sites, I'd at least tell the members through PMs or something so they can get their characters if they'd like or if they have a plot they'd like to keep, or even hand the site over if someone wanted it.

Case 2:
I don't know which rp you're talking about, but yeah, it does sound like it was rigged. I do show a little favoritism with my staff, because 3 helped me make the site, and the 4th I've known from a non-rpg for...well, I'd say almost a year now. I talk to all of my members, or the ones that come on the cbox anyways. I try to talk to all of them, because I'm a nice admin. xD And I try to rp with all of them, but theres 18 of us, so its kind of hard. :p

Case 4:
Oh wow. That's pretty weird. If they don't tell you what you did wrong, you won't know, therefore possibly making a mistake again. And it's also strange that the staff would only rp with each other. Why create a site if you're only going to rp with the other staff members?

I've never been through any of those situations, mainly because the admins on the sites I'm on are nice and not cliquey, and the sites are active for the most part. xD

xing - July 23, 2008 07:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (December, Esq @ Jul 23 2008, 06:33 AM)
Oh man. Dude. I feel your pain. I've been on sites with some of the most brutal admins. The most recent event pissed me off because the site is still open. *sighs* I guess not all bad boards die; the good do not always triumph in the end!

I have to whole heartedly agree. Unfortunately, this one board I talked about, which is really bad hasn't died yet. Ironically, it's been around for about 4-5 years. I do have to say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Regardless, I still feel for you.

Radsos - July 23, 2008 08:02 AM (GMT)
Now, the only admin I have ever had a problem with is one I've never even really talked to, to be honest. And I hate her, too... her and her overdramatic shit.

You see, this admin is known in a particular (and rather common) fandom for having a very old forum and has a Wall of Shame. Under this Wall of Shame, she posts ANYTHING she thinks is any where near her board's site, plot, rules, or even very generic information that can be found out by searching google or wikipedia. She raises hell if she thinks anything is any where NEAR her site... especially if there is potential for the site to 'threaten' her own.

Now, I was in a group of people that was all geared up to set up this site all together and I was so so so so SO happy about it. Then after awhile, we realized that a few things - a few key elements in our plot was similar to her board and we knew... we knew we couldn't go on. We had to go back and change the entire plot because we didn't want hell to pay. It ruined everyone's characters and, frankly, my want to even participate further in the creation of the site.

I hate her. Enough said.

[/enddeppressingmemoriesmoment]

Satire.and.Ice - July 23, 2008 03:20 PM (GMT)
Madame Everard -That's ridiculous! Most canon-based sites concentrate on how well you can play the character, not your manifestation of the character. I don't think you're biased there; I think the whole issue is thoroughly weird.

xing - It's just so creepy how admins take their RL personality into their sites. Like those little kiddie lessons that tell you to use your power wisely. Well apparently none of the admins of today learned that lesson. You put big powers into their hands and they try to take over the universe. :innocent:

I BLEEPING HATE WALLS OF SHAME. There is absolutely no reason for them, and it's a waste of time. Make a list of who you've banned so you can keep up, sure, but don't make a whole pretty page about it. Maybe I'm the one biased on this one, but then again, some people feel the same way.

Radsos: Ugh, that sucks. :( I would have gone ahead with the idea and told her to suck it up and deal with it, or ignored her. A lot of site have similar elements - it hasn't killed anyone yet. Just like mutant rps, a lot of them are quite alike in some ways, but you see them becoming sister sites to a bigger one and affiliates. They even share topsite lists. Gosh, this takes racism to a whole new level.

Oh yeah - another rant.
I hate admins who give you secret words in the rules but make you have to sit at the computer for hours trying to find them. :rawr: That's what I was doing at THREE FRICKING AM last night.

MelioraAdmin - July 23, 2008 04:27 PM (GMT)
I can honestly say that I am definitely one of the least cliquey and unfriendly admins in the world. XD I'm not friendly because I'm desperate and annoying, but immediately upon joining Meliora every new member gets a personal message from me. I introduce myself, tell them a little about the site, make sure they feel comfortable asking questions (I tell them how to get their answers easily), and suggest that they head over to our Introductions forum to get a headstart in the community. People seem to really appreciate this, and so far I haven't encountered one member that hesitated to contact me or someone else if they had questions or concerns. People usually just jump into the community and really enjoy it.

Admins are the foundation of a good roleplay. If the admins are rotten snobs, the entire atmosphere of the site is going to be very unwelcoming and stiff. If the admins are really friendly and reasonable, the atmosphere of the site is probably going to be very relaxed and enjoyable. None of us want to encounter monster admins. I think I can speak for everyone when I say that we're all just looking for an entertaining place to get in some quality roleplaying. Usually that means that we don't want a ridiculous amount of restrictions and tons of cliques.

Some sites, mainly larger ones that are very plot driven, require slightly strict admins. It's understandable, but being able to maintain the standards of a roleplay is different from being an unreasonable jerk who can't earn respect. Being friendly probably won't be a problem if you can be mature and handle issues when they arise. People are more likely to respect and accept an admin's decisions if they like the admin and have open communication with them.

It doesn't seem like a rocket science to me, but a lot of monster admins exist. I just try to be a decent human being and treat Meliora's members the way that I would like to be treated. If people aren't enjoying the site, there's no point in keeping it open.

Mischiefkayla - July 23, 2008 04:46 PM (GMT)
I think there are always going to be admins like that. I did Member/staff of the month by getting members to vote just in case people thought I was rigging the event, some admins really suck.

There is a site I joined that is still up and granted I did take the entire ordeal a little bit over the top but I was so upset by it all that they banned me from joining (After I had deleted my account so wasn't sure what the point was...) I was told by a friend that I had been banned and the week's announcement was my name in big bright letters... lol. But anyway, here is what happened...
The admins of the site were very clearly best friends they spent the majority of the time talking about parties they were off too or where they were going shopping next, one was a girl the other a bloke, the boy was the main admin and had made her admin once she had joined and done her app....... Anyway, one day I log on to find the announcement board saying 'Must read', so being the dutiful member I was clicked and read. They had new graphics that they would add to posts they had changed.

One was something along the lines of spelling/grammar errors and the other was something I don't really remember. I wouldn't have minded had they been small or maybe blended with the skin a bit so it wasn't blatant that you needed to be checked. I PM'd them and said I wasn't sure that was the best way to go... I had a friend who joined with me and she is Romanian and her first language is not English so her spelling and making sense really kinda sucks but she is trying so I love her all the same... I got back "I'm admin, it's my site and I do what I bloody like."

I would have left it be if she'd given a decent answer but that annoyed me more than ever so I argued back that now she was being rude, I had made a suggestion as a member and had stated my case reasonably, adding the in the fact that I had issues spelling and the other girl I joined with didn't speak English as a first language. It annoyed me so much because every reply was basically a stab at my writing or telling me I should just F-off if I had a problem, so I did just that and their site still sucks. They have one active member and yet the refuse to close.

Another site was the second site I joined and was different from what I had done before but it was based on Charmed, (Twas ages ago this one) and I knew everything about the character I was applying for... But over a period of time I realised I was getting cut out, plots I was in was taken over by other admins till finally I was robbed of the character completely with a PM suggesting I try someone else because they wanted the character played in a certain way... I thought that was fair enough but carried on with my original character... Later they had a open spot for a character they needed. I was asked and I agreed. With in a week I was being told I was unrealistic and irresponsible and that character was taken from me. Then one of the admins was going on holiday and she owned one of the Charmed Ones and asked if I'd take it on. I was doubtful but being trusting and wanting to help out I agreed. They must have forgotten about it when they PM'd me on that character...

But when I looked at the inbox page after replying to their PM's I couldn't help but notice.

'The Mikayla issue'
'Mikayla complaint 2'
'Mikayla playing ___ and ___'

I knew I shouldn't have, but I read them and then the outbox messages of anything with my name in because I just couldn't help it... I was outraged... I was fourteen years old, new to role play and being called an idiot, stupid, uncanon and every demeaning name you could be called by admins who were in their late 30's. I was so upset!!

But I felt slightly better after I realised something else... Admin powers enabled me to see IP addresses.

Out of the 20 members on the site, there was only me and one other who were actual members... You guessed it, the rest were admins in disguise, you wouldn't have guessed it at first, unless you aren't naive like me, because all the 'members' were canons....

Well, those are two long winded stories. LMAO



xprincessgwenythx - July 23, 2008 05:22 PM (GMT)
OH! lol I forgot! On that HS site I was talking about before, their MOTM is ALWAYS a staff member or one of their close friends. ALWAYS. Not to mention with a site of over 2000 members, you should NEVER have the same MOTM or COTM NEVER. But the same like 6 people have been in the spotlight for over two years. Every month. It got so bad that people wouldn't even vote anymore because once the head admins voted for who they wanted (ie the same people) everyone else followed suite like little dogs trying to suck up to the admins hoping that one day they would be let into their circle. And the worst part is. The admins are little high school drop outs. They are a bunch of 16-19 year olds who half of them never graduated high school, and the other half are so wrapped up in the drama of life to realize that they are idiots. ok lol now I'm done.

PhoenixLily - July 23, 2008 05:32 PM (GMT)
ok...So reading through this, I'm findin a few things with my site that I sometimes do, but attempt to offest them as well.

I have three (soon to be four) member of the months. One for each group on my site, one (the upcoming one) for OC of the month, and then member of the month. The way I wanted it set up was the member of the month as someone who is over and above helpful, active, yada yada. The others (all the others) are member voted, which is my way of balancing the fact that the member of the month is admin voted.

I try very hard as well to not be cliquy, and think on the site I have created I'm not. I am in a thread with at least one character of everyone who is on the site with one of my characters.

QUOTE
I'm pretty much guilty of favoritism when it comes to staff. Someone who talks to me more, who I can get to know more, than someone who barely talks at all is always higher on my list than the latter. However, most of my staff members I've also known for 2+ years. It's just at rust thing there.


I don't think that is favoritism as much as it is people who have shown that they can be dependable. I promoted one of my members recently because he joined the site had an excellent bio actually advertised for me, and did a ton of banners that I had been waiting for for a while. All while he was still a member, and had nothing to do. In addition to the fact that he actually hung around the site and was active in the C-Box and everything. If you don't promote those types of members, who do you promote?

Satire.and.Ice - July 23, 2008 10:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (xprincessgwenythx @ Jul 23 2008, 05:22 PM)
OH! lol I forgot! On that HS site I was talking about before, their MOTM is ALWAYS a staff member or one of their close friends. ALWAYS. Not to mention with a site of over 2000 members, you should NEVER have the same MOTM or COTM NEVER. But the same like 6 people have been in the spotlight for over two years. Every month. It got so bad that people wouldn't even vote anymore because once the head admins voted for who they wanted (ie the same people) everyone else followed suite like little dogs trying to suck up to the admins hoping that one day they would be let into their circle. And the worst part is. The admins are little high school drop outs. They are a bunch of 16-19 year olds who half of them never graduated high school, and the other half are so wrapped up in the drama of life to realize that they are idiots. ok lol now I'm done.

That's so true! Their MOTM and staff recruits are always friends or other admins with twenty characters, so while it looks like they're being diverse they're not. But that was two years ago...I didn't realize it had gotten THAT bad. I'm tempted to rejoin and see what happens. :p

I think favoritism can be used in a good way if people didn't overdo it. I love the admins on my site, 'cause they're friends of mine, but we've always been nice to our members!

xing - July 24, 2008 12:33 AM (GMT)
From an admin standpoint, I am a very idealistic person. I tend to always take the path of what I feel is right for the board, the members, and the future of the community. My board went inactive after 9 months. Three more months, it would have been a year old. Then again, I would say 9 months is a good run for a XIN board. Many XIN boards had died within 1-4 months.

Normally, I would stay out of the affairs of other boards. Because what happens on one XIN board should not have affected my XIN board. But whether I liked it or not, with the exception of one XIN board, the other XIN boards were interconnected because we shared the same member base. Most of the players on XIN 2 were pretty horrible. They really didn't know how to tell a story. Most of them had all these unoriginal concepts. The administrators of XIN 2 facilitated very bad RPing. The rate it was going, XIN RPing was going down the septic tank.

As I explained with the problematic firebrand member, I was glad when he left. When my friend removed herself from the member's storyline (it was a very BS storyline), she followed another friend to my board. All of a sudden, I see that firebrand member come back. I almost did a spit take, almost choked on my food, and went "WTF is he doing back here?!" He was stalking my friend to my board. On XIN 2, he was constantly harassing her over IM. My friend, a staffer on XIN 2, who then became the main admin, didn't do anything about it.

As soon as I caught him online, I confronted him about it. We got into a heated argument on admin ideologies. He insisted that it's not the admin's job to build up RPers, etc. He insisted that it is not the admin's job to protect people from harassment from other members outside of the board. I think he was trying to justify himself for not being a great admin. Then members start to leave. And he wonders why activity on XIN 2 takes a hurting.

I'll call the admin "Dal" which is the shorted version of his real name. The firebrand member, I'll call "Karl." I find out that Dal and Karl have been buddy-buddy for a very long time. While Dal isn't a monster admin, he's a very blind and naive admin. Karl has been manipulating him for the longest time. However, Dal strongly refused to believe that. When Karl left my board for the first place, I put a profile on him on the staff board as future reference for future staff members. I heard all sorts of testimony from staff and other people that RPed with Karl on the past. I'd go as far and say that Karl is a closet sociopath.

When XIN 2 had this major quest, Dal was spearheading it. I joined the quest for a bit. However, the quest had a very stupid and un-XINlike storyline. But, I'll save the details for another story.

But, Dal screwed over everybody in favor of Karl and a few of the older members. This is a few weeks before Karl returned to my board. Dal and Karl were working closely together. The quest would be going through a series of threads. Several story threads would be taking place at the same time. However, once you pick a thread, you had to stay in it. So far, Karl had gotten permission from Dal to constantly jump threads. Nobody else in the quest had gotten permission to jump threads.

Keep in mind, players are living in different timezones across the world. Dal lives in China and Karl lives in Australia. It's only a few hours difference in timezones. While everybody else is asleep, the two of them are constantly posting in one thread after another. Dal ends up allowing Karl to finish the quest. He didn't give the other players a chance to finish it.

When it came to rewarding items and points, Karl and a select few got rewarded. From what many have seen, most of them didn't deserve them. The ones that did got screwed over. Before the quest took place, Dal said everybody would get a nice reward. But he went back on his word and said "tough." While Dal was the admin, Karl had a say in everything that was going on. Soon, Dal promoted Karl to staff.

There was another instance. On XIN 2, there is a rule in which if you choose to kill your character off, you cannot bring him/her back. This one member decided to kill his character off in a car bombing. His body was blown into pieces. He described every inch of detail. Then all of a sudden, he said he didn't want to kill his character off. He convinces Dal to let him bring his character back. I don't have anything personal with that one player, but, he should've known what he was doing. And Dal shouldn't have granted that request.

While Dal was only the temp admin, he was the active one. The other admin didn't do anything and turned a blind eye. If they had taken action a long time ago, then XIN 2 wouldn't have gone down the drain. Ironically, XIN 2 being one of the main 2 XIN boards gave a false interpretation of the XIN series and XIN RPing.

While XIN 2 admin stress "reality," there was nothing realistic about it. You had players acting all unrealistic. Yet, staff didn't crack down on it. They didn't lay down the law.

Asides from the bitchy and melodramatic admins of an RPG. There are other types of very vexing admin:

- The hypocritical admin

- The inept admin

- The admin that is cronies with select members

- The cliquish admin

- The admin that turns a blind-eye to everything

I do stress that I would have never bothered peering into the affairs of XIN 2. But, we were all interconnected through the same member base. And XIN 2 created an environment where very bad RPers thrived. Sadly, when they join other boards, the other boards end up falling.

Hopefully no other admin has had to deal with such unusual circumstances.

Fablezzz - July 25, 2008 07:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (xing @ Jul 22 2008, 10:11 PM)
There was a high ranking staffer whose character was in a relationship with her character. The player did some dedication. However, he forgot to mention her character. From what I read, she went off the deep end. She demoted him. Also, she posted hentai pictures she drew of several characters on the board. It was against Proboards policy. Nobody else had the admin authority to remove them.

I swore aloud when I read that, I won't lie. What the heck?

I'm honestly bewildered that admins like this exist.

xing - July 25, 2008 09:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Fablezzz @ Jul 25 2008, 07:53 AM)
QUOTE (xing @ Jul 22 2008, 10:11 PM)
There was a high ranking staffer whose character was in a relationship with her character.  The player did some dedication.  However, he forgot to mention her character.  From what I read, she went off the deep end.  She demoted him.  Also, she posted hentai pictures she drew of several characters on the board.  It was against Proboards policy.  Nobody else had the admin authority to remove them.

I swore aloud when I read that, I won't lie. What the heck?

I'm honestly bewildered that admins like this exist.

You're not the only one.

phoenyx rose - July 28, 2008 03:41 PM (GMT)
to Satire.and.Ice and xprincessgwenythx, i believe i know exactly what site you are talking about. i joined up about a month after they opened and thought WOW! this site is gonna be greeat! it was active and everything. but i quickly learned that it wasn't as great as it appeared to be. out of the admins, i only roleplayed with one or two. and quite frankly, looking back at some of the posts, they make me cringe. and yes, they do keep changing their characters. and to make matters worse, it's hard to find someone rp with because everyone is so busy trying to get that attention of the admins and try to get in good. at least it seems that way. and alot of members eventually die off. in fact, i haven't posted in two years and they still have my account. so that large member count? is probably completely bull. but i'm happy to say that since then, i've grown as a roleplayer (thank goodness!) and that my style doesn't really fit in with that particular rp.

it's effed up because when i first joined, i tried kissing the admins a---, behind. something happened with another forum and it was this big hoorah about it. looking back on it, it was crazy. personally, i never want to run a site that way. i pride myself in being a very understanding and calm admin who wants nothing the best for her members. forums shouldn't be all about the admin(s). they should be about creativity, development, and fun. if anything, i come off as too hyper. which i am lol. but alot of admins have lost sight of what it's all supposed to be about. and that sucks. but there are some great, kick butt admins out there. i tend to stay away from rps like that.

but on that site, there was one admin that i became friends with. he wasn't as mad as most. i just looked and saw he wasn't on staff, which is good for him. he was probably the most sincere person that i actually talked to on there. and he started talking to me. which surprised the heck outta me 'cause the staff runs in a pack. i would hate to piss that admin off.

i don't know. i can understand being somewhat strict but creating a site, being a complete monster, and then complaining when you drive members away is just idiotic (i love that word!). i like the laid-back, sweet admins. the ones you can chat with the cbox and just talk about the dumbest things known to man.

Greymalkin - July 28, 2008 07:05 PM (GMT)
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He insisted that it is not the admin's job to protect people from harassment from other members outside of the board.


I beg to differ. Actually, I don't beg, I state it flat out.

Players on my board are under my roof and my protection. My writ doesn't run on AIM or YM or other boards, but you don't come into my place and hassle my guests. Period. I will ban you from my board and block your IP, possibly even your entire ISP, from my domain if need be.



PS: what's XIN?

kenjikins - July 28, 2008 09:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Greymalkin @ Jul 28 2008, 07:05 PM)
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He insisted that it is not the admin's job to protect people from harassment from other members outside of the board.


I beg to differ. Actually, I don't beg, I state it flat out.

Players on my board are under my roof and my protection. My writ doesn't run on AIM or YM or other boards, but you don't come into my place and hassle my guests. Period. I will ban you from my board and block your IP, possibly even your entire ISP, from my domain if need be.



PS: what's XIN?

Holy Wow!

I agree with Grey there! I don't tolerate open harassment on either of my boards, I don't care who they are. I'd have a serious issue if someone started harassing my members and that would go double for a member harassing a guest. That just doesn't fly with me.

I have only one consistent problem with admins, and I've honestly never disliked any of them. Two in particular I know that love to create sites and they make them and they generate a lot of members and within the month they are gone, twice just disappearing without a word, in the height of activity. They will start up a new board of exactly the same genre and start again, and their little group will follow them. It got to me recently because I put in a lot of hard work skinning, making graphics, and setting up codes for their site, only to be left. this was right after I'd just revamped too.

I understand a flighty attention span. I'm guilty of it too... but really? How much variety can you have with a Real life city/school RP?

It frustrates me.

xprincessgwenythx - July 29, 2008 02:56 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (phoenyx rose @ Jul 28 2008, 03:41 PM)
to Satire.and.Ice and xprincessgwenythx, i believe i know exactly what site you are talking about. i joined up about a month after they opened and thought WOW! this site is gonna be greeat! it was active and everything. but i quickly learned that it wasn't as great as it appeared to be. out of the admins, i only roleplayed with one or two. and quite frankly, looking back at some of the posts, they make me cringe. and yes, they do keep changing their characters. and to make matters worse, it's hard to find someone rp with because everyone is so busy trying to get that attention of the admins and try to get in good. at least it seems that way. and alot of members eventually die off. in fact, i haven't posted in two years and they still have my account. so that large member count? is probably completely bull. but i'm happy to say that since then, i've grown as a roleplayer (thank goodness!) and that my style doesn't really fit in with that particular rp.

it's effed up because when i first joined, i tried kissing the admins a---, behind. something happened with another forum and it was this big hoorah about it. looking back on it, it was crazy. personally, i never want to run a site that way. i pride myself in being a very understanding and calm admin who wants nothing the best for her members. forums shouldn't be all about the admin(s). they should be about creativity, development, and fun. if anything, i come off as too hyper. which i am lol. but alot of admins have lost sight of what it's all supposed to be about. and that sucks. but there are some great, kick butt admins out there. i tend to stay away from rps like that.

but on that site, there was one admin that i became friends with. he wasn't as mad as most. i just looked and saw he wasn't on staff, which is good for him. he was probably the most sincere person that i actually talked to on there. and he started talking to me. which surprised the heck outta me 'cause the staff runs in a pack. i would hate to piss that admin off.

i don't know. i can understand being somewhat strict but creating a site, being a complete monster, and then complaining when you drive members away is just idiotic (i love that word!). i like the laid-back, sweet admins. the ones you can chat with the cbox and just talk about the dumbest things known to man.

I know EXACTLY who you are talking about. He is a good friend of mine too. I actually met him on the original site that this one spun off of. He was the only good person on there. And it was funny because when this site was made and I wasn't made an admin right away (I was one of the two head admins on the original) he was like "this is crazy and messed up" But yeah I think he quite there a long time ago. He just didn't agree with the way things were run and the head admin didn't like that so she demoted him and he left. It was a sad day and that was when I left too. You are completely right about the writing style and creativity on the board. They still have all of my old accounts and my friends accounts. I don't believe they ever delete people so their count just keeps getting higher and higher. I went and looked at my old posts too and I can honestly say that I have grown so much. They were stifling what I could be. Now I consider myself an advanced roleplayer because of the contents I write. Looking back I can definitely say that I was no where near what I am today. And for that I thank them. :]

It makes me sad that I can't stop poor rpers from being sucked into the drama filled world of that site. I wish I could warn everyone against it. It might look appealing at first, but in all honesty it's not. Which is so sad to say.

CherryKiss - August 4, 2008 09:54 PM (GMT)
whoa, i DEFINITELY know what site you guys are talking about. i also left the board, for that reason, and the whole scene kid thing. there was this one member i just couldn't stand - every single on of her characters were homosexual scenester boys with uber-sad pasts involving their homophobic dads and whatnot. she was a complete attention whore and a HUGE suck-up (no wonder she became staff?). she was basically the last straw.

but yeah, the admins there were some of the most clique-y ones around. and their characters were TERRIBLE. the only admin i liked, as well as the rest of you did, isn't staff anymore now. and i don't blame him at all.

i could write a whole post on this board and the different stereotypes of characters. xD

Temperance - August 4, 2008 11:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (xing @ Jul 24 2008, 12:33 AM)
--  He was stalking my friend to my board.  On XIN 2, he was constantly harassing her over IM.  My friend, a staffer on XIN 2, who then became the main admin, didn't do anything about it.

As soon as I caught him online, I confronted him about it.  We got into a heated argument on admin ideologies.  He insisted that it's not the admin's job to build up RPers, etc.  He insisted that it is not the admin's job to protect people from harassment from other members outside of the board.  I think he was trying to justify himself for not being a great admin.  Then members start to leave.  And he wonders why activity on XIN 2 takes a hurting.  --

--  I'd go as far and say that Karl is a closet sociopath.

Oh man, I hate stalkers. I actually have a personal stalker who is 9 years older than I am. He is very creepy. Seriously very creepy. He has anger issues and he always talks like he was high, though he really isn't. He has weird habits, he talks all weird. He follows me on every site I am at...not RP than god but every other site...facebook, deviantart, general forums, livejournal...

He throws hissy fits occasionally and they seem very odd. He tried to intentionally tick me off at a forum just becasue he felt like having someone get angry at him. I'm a patient person but people know I do not take intentional annoying kindly. After a while I PMed him to stop it before I will lose my temper completely with him. He first apologized but when I didn't reply to his last PM (which I didnt think needed a reply)...few days later he started harassing me by sending me e-mails ranting and arguing and I never replied to any of them. Still he kept on going. He dragged an admin of a general discussion forum into it and frankly offended him in the messages he sent to me. It was crazy. Now he has not mailed me in a while but he kept on snipping at me at the discussion forum till I told him off. I've told him to leave me alone several times. I NEVER liked him at any point and I was never even nice to him. Still he told me he considered me as his best friend! From an admin on another forum I found out this man had feelings toward me. He was confiding to few people about me and that was just plain creepy.

He still keeps on following me but I have blocked him everywhere and I only put up with his posts at this general discussion board IF he doesn't try and throw hidden insults at me. The admin of that site knows about this whole thing and will ban him if he will continue this disturbing behavior. Everyone thinks he is very odd and honestly people have commented that sometimes his rambling sounds so messed up that people don't get it.

He is still yapping things about me to an admin at another general forum. He hasn't "gotten over me". It's just sick, he is sick.


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He insisted that it is not the admin's job to protect people from harassment from other members outside of the board.


I beg to differ. Actually, I don't beg, I state it flat out.

Players on my board are under my roof and my protection. My writ doesn't run on AIM or YM or other boards, but you don't come into my place and hassle my guests. Period. I will ban you from my board and block your IP, possibly even your entire ISP, from my domain if need be.


I agree. It IS the admin's job to protect members. What? Does someone actually think an admin shouldn't worry about stalkers? i.e. Like the one in my example? That's just...stupid. NO ONE should EVER have to put up with any form of stalking anywhere. Someone should always take note of it and help! It's like...working at an office where you witness a person get sexually harassed. Then one day the harassed person sues the harasser. Will you or will you not help the harassed person? No? Well you should. No one should have to put up with such stuff from anyone!

I will always protect the members of my site. No exceptions. As Grey put it...no one comes to my plase and hassles my guests. We once got a member that completely attacked my co-admins. Finally people got into the snapping point and we had enough. I think I wrote a comment that was over 2 Word pages long to her, explaining why we were going to ban her etc. I just got so angry that she dared to attack and hassle my co-workers......she also made racist remarks.




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