Why does everyone hate scene kids?

Seriously, I see scene kid bashing everywhere. They're mentioned all the time in rant threads, banned in peoples' rules... Why? So what if you don't like the style? Is it really THAT harmful to you if someone uses a scene kid to portray a character on a site? People say that scene characters are cliquey on sites, well guess what? It works the opposite way too. I've seen - and experienced - being shunned from a site because of having a 'scene kid' for a character. FACE IT: It's a modern trend. People might not like it, and it will fade away, but for right now, it's FAR from unrealistic to see scene kids in modern roleplays.

I totally understand when it comes to past or future roleplays, because the scene style doesn't go that far back and I doubt it will go that far into the future, but what's with the hatin' in modern roleplays?

I'm curious. Really. If you can provide an educated reason for why you dislike scene kids on your sites so much, please do post. But I'm tired of seeing scenies bashed with no given explanation. Because, hey, some of us think it's a cute style. The same thing applies to Gossip Girl actors/actresses and people like that; it's not like I even use those ones, but seeing portrayals banned is just freaking annoying and controlling.

I dislike scene kids in general for the same reason I disliked preppy kids in high school, and goth kids before that. Most of the ones I've ever come across (obviously not all, and I try to treat individuals without prejudices) are mindlessly following a trend without actually liking it. In a few years, they'll have a completely different style- not because they wanted a change, or they liked something better, but because that's what all their friends are doing, which is what all the cool internet kids are doing.

Basically, I don't like sheep. In a few years, I'll like the scene kids that are still around, because it's actually their style and not a stupid fad.

I don't hate scene kids. Scene chicks make good camwhores.

But seriously, the problem I see is merely that they, like many other archetypal cliques, follow the theme of banding together under nonconformity, which is in and of itself a most clear conformity.

To be serious, there is no such thing as nonconformity. If you're trying, you already lose.

And the real problem is this, with regards to roleplaying:

They're a new sue.

Three quarters of scene kids are ridiculously selfish and vain. It's like "I HAVE FIVEBILLIONMORE FRIENDS THAN U ON MYSPACE HXC!!!1!" I know not everyone is like this, but it's so stupid that they use the internet to try and be famous, and do all this stupid stuff like pose for the camera and edit their pictures on photoshop.

Still, not all of them are bad. They do make for an interesting character occasionally, with the multicoloured hair and such ^^

My reason for disliking both scene kids and the Gossip Girl/One Tree Hill folk is the same. They get annoying after seeing them 52675767876989 times. Same with Angelina Jolie. I'd never straight out ban them though.

While I may not like their attitudes, I must admit that scene boys can be fw'adorable.

Pretty much everything.

I find a good majority them to be quite pretentious, to put kindly. Addtionally, if you've seen one, you have seen them all.

A lot of people don't like having Scene kids on their forums PRECISELY because they all. look. alike. There is no originality. No creativity. No thought going into your character. It's merely a mindless trend that some admins do no like.

I highly dislike scene kids attitude. Makes them look so emo and "no one cares" aspect. Deal with it and move on! Life is way to short, like my siggy says.

But on the other hand, I love the style and look, especially the music! And when skinny jeans look better on a guy, then there's a problem on which way they swing, if ya know what I mean. ;)

I think that sums it up perfectly. I hate sheep as well, and therefore I hate the little preppy kids and the little scene kids.

My cousin and her friends are all scene. Complete with the hair and the clothes.

They're some of the sweetest, most intelligent people I know. |:

And if someone is following a trend even if just because they're friends are doing, that technically means they like it, too. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. Regardless of someone's reasons for following a trend, why is it anyone else's business or concern?

If someone has a bad attitude, I blame the individual, not the group. :3 But I really don't get all this hating on trends. So what? I've got better things to do than worry about goths and preps. There are cool people and sucky people in every group, and why someone follows a trend is their own business. You can't really psychoanalyze people and hypothesize about why so many people do something unless, well, you ask them their individual reasons.

It can be just as simple as, "I like it."

Yup.

But then again, it's a high school thing to trend bash, I'm way outta high school, so I don't get it. Because it doesn't matter outside of high school. xD But even then I didn't get the point. |:

Ah well!

For myself, their style makes me think a tame, muted version of visual kei or Japanese street fashion, and that makes it A-OK in my book. Because I adore visual kei and Japanese street fashion. <3

I'd totally dress like that and get my hair done like that if I had the money and wasn't so lazy. :B

It doesn't, though. I went through high school watching my best friend jump from stupid trend to stupid trend, eventually doing some hardcore drugs, because she had a really messed up need for people to like her. She hated the way some of those clothes made her look, and the way the substances made her feel.

And it's not my business or concern if Joe Schmoe is a sheep. But that doesn't mean I have to like it, either, or when presented with the opportunity encourage them to think for themselves. I don't push the issue, because in the end they'll do what they want, but I try to remind them that there's another option, too.

I dislike scene kids 'cause every scene kid I know is ridiculously vain and egotistical.
& they have high opinions of themselves; again, at least the ones I know.

I must disagree with an eighth of your siggie btw;
Josh is far from scene. ;P

But I think scene kids have nice aspects to their dress sense it just looks bad all merged together.

I'm not sure how this went from RP to RL.
In RP I've seen a lot of 'scene kid' play bys without the personality. Though personality can't really be stereotyped anyway? So whatever. I've done it; RPed the scene kid type. It's not because it's a trend, it's because that particular character is that particular way. It's like life; everyone is different and exactly the same.

I despise all out bans, but at the same time, some ban is needed at times. You can't have one particular look, group, nationality or anything overpowering another when it comes to RP. Then it gets boring. It's like all out evil characters or something; you can't have all insanity, you need some nice. So I understand bans if there's 20 scene kids and 1 preppy kid. But come on, now. Not everyone with a scene look is a 'sheep'.

I've been accused of being 'emo' before. Why? I don't really know. I don't dress like a scene kid or an emo kid. You know what? It's stupid. I cut my hair because of it, because it really did upset me what some people were saying because I have a bit of a rocky history with some things that they brought up. If they knew they would back off, but they aren't going to know. But apparently the girl who started that bs was just jealous >.> Her friends words, not mine.

So my suggestion? Everyone needs to get over themselves. You are NOT original. No one is. So stop pretending like one fad is less original than another, 'cause that's all we are. So what, you wear layered polo shirts instead of band shirts and wristbands? That's a fad, hun.
Everything is.
We need to get over this need to be different and this need to get away fromc onformity and just be who we are and accept people for it. If we can't accept people in role play it just shows how much of a biggot you might be irl :)

Exxxxactly!

And you can't judge a group of people based on some of their aspects... People get pissed off when they hear judgmental things such as "emo kids all cut themselves" or "all goth kids hate everybody" and yet "all scene kids are pretentious and vain" seems to be a perfectly acceptable thing to say. It's the same concept with all of them, and it's not right to do. I don't see how people can decide they hate a whole group of people based about what they know about a few of them. Presumptuous, much? Sure, I know some conceited people with the scene style, but I also know some very introverted and shy ones. It depends on the individual, not the "label."



But yeah, as Z.R. pointed out, I was starting this based on roleplaying issues, not peoples' real life problems with scene kids. =P

My views about disliking scene kids in the rp world is the same as in the real world, so I replied as such.

And as I said in my original post- I treat individuals as individuals, not as a stereotype. I will give everyone the benefit of the doubt, no matter what their irritating, mindless trend. But stereotypes don't appear out of thin air, and I find that many stick to the given stereotype of being self-centered and obnoxious.

I don't let people use them as playbys because I dislike having playbys of EXTREMELY famous people. And most of them are or appear to be too young to be suitable playbys for characters that are supposed to be in their twenties and up.

In real life, i don't care much about what my friends look like. Just how they act and what their values are. I will tease a few sceney-boppers about how much their music sucks (emphasis on joking, i don't really care what they listen to all that much), but that's it.

I agree!

As far as RPing, I would never ban them, simply because that would limit creativity, but my problem with them is that people use the same PBs over and over again without changing the character. They always seem the same.

In real life, however, this is completely different because they are real people who are all completely unique.

I just don't dig them all running around in RPs.

I despise scene kids. But like stated before... it's like when I was in High School and there was that current trend. Mine wasn't preppy kid, mine was the pop-punk kids who wore the punk cloths but listened to Avril and Good Charlotte (this is NOT punk). Also, all the street racer kids. Dear good I wish I could have poured sugar into each and every one of their gas tanks (I was biased though cause one of the guys killed my cat with his rice burner).

Scene kids are irritating in a personal level because I promote local bands. I promote local METAL bands. The scene kids who come because my boss invited a hardcore/metalcore band to play before one of the bigger band in the area and proceed to act like douche bags kill it for me. They try and say how straight edge they are and give us shit for drinking. I'll give you respect for being straight edge, but not if you're going to put me down for choosing to NOT be straight edge. They also have a tendency of doing the hardcore dancing (which we have all come to refer to as the windmill dance) and have, more than once, hit or kicked people who were standing against the stage trying to just have a good time and sing along with the band.

As far as RPing... I've never been on a board that banned scene kids. I HAVE been on a board that suspended scene kids because they were overtaking the board and so there wasn't a big enough variety on the board. A HS will not ever consist of only Scene kids RL so on an RP, a admin should have a right to try and even out the playing field.

As far as bans on other characters I've only been on two site (run by the same admin) where OTH PB's were banned, but she has issues about OTH and there was something about a nightmare which caused this ban on PB's... I think any other ban's she's made are purely as a joke... like Marilyn Manson... Just to see what others say (like me, when I said I'd just make a character with Rob Zombie)

I have no problems with scene kids at all; a few of my friends actually fit into that group and whatnot, but on RPs, they kind of annoy me, just because the same ones aer used over and over and over, like someone else said. It also really bugs me when you go to a site, and every single character is a scene kid, and it's just real life - not set in some special place where that would be realistic. I would never ban them on my own site, because I know a lot of people love to use them as PBs, but it would be nice to not see as many of them floating around until other types of groups have caught up.

I love using Scene Kids, I have been using scene kids for a long time. I just like how their hair, and clothing style. Like some of my favorites are Hanna Beth, she is such a really gorgeous girl and I love her eyes, she has some of the most unqiue eyes have ever seen. She is someone that I find fun to use. Then there is Audrey Kitching who has to have some of the most unique hair I have ever seen as well.


I don't seen the point in banning them. They are characters, just because you dont' like them doesn't mean other people aren't going to like them. I mostly use scene kids because I can relate to them, because I can get into character when I use them. I very rarely have a problem posting if I am using a Scene Kid. For some reason I just have a easier time getting into their mindframe than anyone else.

I do sometimes understand if its like a old site, like in the in the early 1900's or late 1800's because you wouldn't have scene people then but in like Band sites that are now, or High School there really isn't any reason to. They are very popular to use and you have more of a chance to be active to allow scene kids because they would be reserved close to first