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Title: [S] About Sidebar


tacoes - April 21, 2008 02:31 PM (GMT)
I may have missed this in another post, my eyes got tired about page seven so it is possible that I missed it in the original sidebar thread. In case I didn't I'm having a problem getting the sidebar to line up on the side with the board header. The image and the sidebar overlap, and even when I shift the image over it still doesn't pop up into place.

The skin I'm using has a traditional board header and all the other coding is working very well, I sort of know a little about it, but not enough obviously as it won't go up. If you need to know the coding I can paste it in a reply, but for now the link to the site is in my signature, the little alice surrounded by cards, but the site isn't officially open yet so don't expect too much.

-Thanks in advance

shinylady - April 21, 2008 02:49 PM (GMT)
Have you tried putting the sidebar code underneath the <% BOARD HEADER %> tag?

EDIT: Har, totally misconstrued that, sorry! Putting it above the header tag might work. If not, there're some threads on this in IFSkinzone that I'll try and dig out for you =)

tacoes - April 21, 2008 02:58 PM (GMT)
It is above it, like it said in the original directions, but it still wound up all funny looking. I also tried shifting the picture to teh other side but it didn't work. (thanks btw)

shinylady - April 21, 2008 03:09 PM (GMT)
(Np! I have a skin problem on IFSkinzone that's been waiting four days for someone to look into it x_X)

I might be way off here, but is the banner in your board wrappers or the logo portion of your images? It seems the sidebar lines up with the ads and stuff the way it should if it were flush with the banner (my own sidebar is beneath the banner and the ads) but the banner sorta perches on top.

Edit: Roswenth mentioned "Note: some have reported success with certain skins in placing the sidebar right before the <% NAVIGATION %> tag." over here. Might help?

Edit #2: I did a little experimenting on my test board. I use a custom header (so it's in board wrappers) and it pushed the sidebar down. Copy it, erase it, and move it into the 'logo' area of the images and, fingers crossed, you should see it line up properly.

tacoes - April 21, 2008 04:24 PM (GMT)
so take the header and make it the logo instead? I'll try that now.

EDIT : holy crap.... it made everything but the sidebar vanish when I did that, although it was up at teh top then...... it only went back after I erased the Logo... maybe just the image?

EDIT 2 : When I tried just putting th image there the sidebar did indeed jump up where I wanted it but the image wouldn't show.... XP today is just not my day.

shinylady - April 21, 2008 04:40 PM (GMT)
I'm not sure what code you're using, is it following this sorta layout?

CODE
<A HREF="http://board URL"><img src="http://URL"></A HREF><br><br>


Edit: For the logo box, I mean >>;

tacoes - April 21, 2008 04:42 PM (GMT)
yeah that's the image code. And you're welcome XD

shinylady - April 21, 2008 04:43 PM (GMT)
xP

Could you do me a favour and post your board wrapper codes?

tacoes - April 21, 2008 04:45 PM (GMT)
yeah no problem hun as you're saving my butt and whatnot.


The header

QUOTE
<center><br><body bgcolor='#FFFFFF' leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" alink='#000000' vlink='#000000'>
<b><font color=AE848B>after the wreck</font></b> skinned by dean; of <a href=http://www.rpg-directory.com/>RPG-D</a>.<Div class="board">
<table><tr><td><center><a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Lynn-mun/alice2-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Welcome Home Alice"></a>

<table align=center valign=top><font=georgia>
<tr> <td width=200 valign=top>
<div class='maintitle'>&&Welcome!&&</div><div class="tablepad" border='1'><span class='desc'><center>
<br>
<center><font size="4" color=#AE848B>What?? Happened Before...</font><br>
Alice came to Wonderland oh so long ago and saved the world.  Since then the world has gone topsy turvy, the last of the Cheshire's has vanished, the Queen her husband and son rule with an iron fist and a new girl, Alyson Alice, the great great great grand niece of the first Alice, has come to neverland.  Everyone is looking for her, the quee wants her head, the cat wants to save her, and everyone else just wants to be normal again.
<center> <font size="5"><i><b><BR><BR><a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?showtopic=7">We are looking for staff!</a></font></b><br></i><br></center>
</span></div></div>

<center><div class='maintitle'>&&RP Information</div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
<br>
<center><font size="4" color=#AE848B>Caught! in_the_Moment>>> </font><br><br><br>Start Up<br>
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?">Check it out here!</a><br><br>
</center></center>
</span></div></div>
<br>
<center><div class='maintitle'>the KnoWs & tHE KnOw NoTS>>></div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' ><font size="4">
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?showtopic=3&st=0&#last">RuLeS</a><br>
<a href="">The DiARy PaGE</a>
</font><br><br>
</span></div></div>

<center>
<div class="maintitle">&&ALl thE QuE3ns HoRSes aNd aLL tHosE GOod MeN </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
You  may contact the staff through the private message link in their profiles.<br><br>
<b><u>Admins</b> </u><br>
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?showuser=1"><b>Chez Cheshire</b></a><br>
<a href=""><b>coming soon </b></a><br>
</b>
<br><br><u><b>Moderators</u><br>
<a href=""><b>coming soon</b></a> <br>
<a href=""><b>coming soon</b></a> <br>
</span></div></div>
</center>
<center>
<div class="maintitle">ChatTeR HAtTErs&& </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
<!-- BEGIN CBOX - www.cbox.ws -->
<div align="center" id="cboxdiv">
<iframe frameborder="0" width="150" height="250" src="http://www2.cbox.ws/box/?boxid=1789144&amp;boxtag=lwqerg&amp;sec=main" marginheight="2" marginwidth="2" scrolling="auto" allowtransparency="yes" name="cboxmain" style="border: 0px solid;" id="cboxmain"></iframe><br/>
<iframe frameborder="0" width="150" height="75" src="http://www2.cbox.ws/box/?boxid=1789144&amp;boxtag=lwqerg&amp;sec=form" marginheight="2" marginwidth="2" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="yes" name="cboxform" style="border: 0px solid;border-top:0px" id="cboxform"></iframe>
</div>
<!-- END CBOX --><br><br>
</span></div></div>

<div class='maintitle'>BriNGiNG tHEm BaCk AroUNd! </div></b>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc'>
<img src="88x31banner.jpg">
<br>
<br><i><u>Listed At</b></i></b>
<marquee scrolldelay="151"><BR>
<a href="http://www.rpg-directory.com"
target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ShinLi/RPG%20Life/RPGDirectoryMiniBanner2.gif" alt="RPG-Directory"></a>
&nbsp;

</a>
&nbsp;
</marquee><br>

<textarea class="textinput" readonly="readonly"><a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?"
target="_blank"><img src="88x31banner.jpg" alt="Welcome Home Alice"></a></textarea>
</span></div></div>
</center><br>

<center>
<div class="maintitle">&&TheBEaT By WHiCh We ThrIVe </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
<center><p style="visibility:visible;"><embed src="http://www.mp3asset.com/swf/mp3/mff-bear.swf" quality="high" wmode="transparent" flashvars="myid=9226032&path=2008/04/16&mycolor=0x474747&mycolor2=0xA30041&mycolor3=0x919191&autoplay=true&rand=0&f=3&vol=100&pat=0" width="135" height="190" name="myflashfetish" align="middle"type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" border="0" /><br><a href="http://www.myflashfetish.com/playlist/9226032" target="_blank"><img src="http://assets.myflashfetish.com/images/get-tracks.gif" title="Get Music Tracks!" style="border-style:none;" alt="Get Music Tracks!"></a> <a href="http://www.myflashfetish.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://assets.myflashfetish.com/images/make-own.gif" title="Create A Playlist!" style="border-style:none;" alt="Create A Playlist!"></a><br></p></center>
</span></div></div>
</center>

<div class='maintitle'>Credits </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc'>
Skin ©
<br><br>
Side-bar © <a href="http://rpg-directory.com/">Roswenth</a><br>edited by: Sara<br>
<br>
<br>
<form style='display:inline' action="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?act=idxact=Login&amp;CODE=01&amp;CookieDate=1" method="post">
<div align='left'>BoUNce BeTWeeN ThE LiN3s<br>
.switch_
<br>
<input type="text" class="forminput" size="10" name="UserName" onfocus="this.value=''" value="User Name" />
<input type='password' class='forminput' size='10' name='PassWord' onfocus="this.value=''" value='ibfrules' />
<input type='submit' class='forminput' value='Go' />
</div></font>
</form><br />

</span></div></div>
<br /></right>
</td>
<td width="720" height="100%" valign=top><% BOARD HEADER %>
<% NAVIGATION %>
<% BOARD %>
<% STATS %>
<br><br>


The Footer
QUOTE
</td></tr></table>

</tr></td></table></div><br><br>

shinylady - April 21, 2008 04:52 PM (GMT)
Okay, copypasta'ing these - first into logo (just to save some effort on your part):

CODE
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php"> <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Lynn-mun/alice2-1.jpg"></a>


It doesn't have the alt but the banner should load.

Paste this into your header;

CODE
<center><br><body bgcolor='#FFFFFF' leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" alink='#000000' vlink='#000000'>
<b><font color=AE848B>after the wreck</font></b> skinned by dean; of <a href=http://www.rpg-directory.com/>RPG-D</a>.<Div class="board">
<table><tr><td><center>

<table align=center valign=top><font=georgia>
<tr> <td width=200 valign=top>
<div class='maintitle'>&&Welcome!&&</div><div class="tablepad" border='1'><span class='desc'><center>
<br>
<center><font size="4" color=#AE848B>What?? Happened Before...</font><br>
Alice came to Wonderland oh so long ago and saved the world.  Since then the world has gone topsy turvy, the last of the Cheshire's has vanished, the Queen her husband and son rule with an iron fist and a new girl, Alyson Alice, the great great great grand niece of the first Alice, has come to neverland.  Everyone is looking for her, the quee wants her head, the cat wants to save her, and everyone else just wants to be normal again.
<center> <font size="5"><i><b><BR><BR><a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?showtopic=7">We are looking for staff!</a></font></b><br></i><br></center>
</span></div></div>

<center><div class='maintitle'>&&RP Information</div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
<br>
<center><font size="4" color=#AE848B>Caught! in_the_Moment>>> </font><br><br><br>Start Up<br>
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?">Check it out here!</a><br><br>
</center></center>
</span></div></div>
<br>
<center><div class='maintitle'>the KnoWs & tHE KnOw NoTS>>></div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' ><font size="4">
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?showtopic=3&st=0&#last">RuLeS</a><br>
<a href="">The DiARy PaGE</a>
</font><br><br>
</span></div></div>

<center>
<div class="maintitle">&&ALl thE QuE3ns HoRSes aNd aLL tHosE GOod MeN </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
You  may contact the staff through the private message link in their profiles.<br><br>
<b><u>Admins</b> </u><br>
<a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?showuser=1"><b>Chez Cheshire</b></a><br>
<a href=""><b>coming soon </b></a><br>
</b>
<br><br><u><b>Moderators</u><br>
<a href=""><b>coming soon</b></a> <br>
<a href=""><b>coming soon</b></a> <br>
</span></div></div>
</center>
<center>
<div class="maintitle">ChatTeR HAtTErs&& </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
<!-- BEGIN CBOX - www.cbox.ws -->
<div align="center" id="cboxdiv">
<iframe frameborder="0" width="150" height="250" src="http://www2.cbox.ws/box/?boxid=1789144&amp;boxtag=lwqerg&amp;sec=main" marginheight="2" marginwidth="2" scrolling="auto" allowtransparency="yes" name="cboxmain" style="border: 0px solid;" id="cboxmain"></iframe><br/>
<iframe frameborder="0" width="150" height="75" src="http://www2.cbox.ws/box/?boxid=1789144&amp;boxtag=lwqerg&amp;sec=form" marginheight="2" marginwidth="2" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="yes" name="cboxform" style="border: 0px solid;border-top:0px" id="cboxform"></iframe>
</div>
<!-- END CBOX --><br><br>
</span></div></div>

<div class='maintitle'>BriNGiNG tHEm BaCk AroUNd! </div></b>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc'>
<img src="88x31banner.jpg">
<br>
<br><i><u>Listed At</b></i></b>
<marquee scrolldelay="151"><BR>
<a href="http://www.rpg-directory.com"
target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ShinLi/RPG%20Life/RPGDirectoryMiniBanner2.gif" alt="RPG-Directory"></a>
&nbsp;

</a>
&nbsp;
</marquee><br>

<textarea class="textinput" readonly="readonly"><a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?"
target="_blank"><img src="88x31banner.jpg" alt="Welcome Home Alice"></a></textarea>
</span></div></div>
</center><br>

<center>
<div class="maintitle">&&TheBEaT By WHiCh We ThrIVe </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc' >
<center><p style="visibility:visible;"><embed src="http://www.mp3asset.com/swf/mp3/mff-bear.swf" quality="high" wmode="transparent" flashvars="myid=9226032&path=2008/04/16&mycolor=0x474747&mycolor2=0xA30041&mycolor3=0x919191&autoplay=true&rand=0&f=3&vol=100&pat=0" width="135" height="190" name="myflashfetish" align="middle"type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" border="0" /><br><a href="http://www.myflashfetish.com/playlist/9226032" target="_blank"><img src="http://assets.myflashfetish.com/images/get-tracks.gif" title="Get Music Tracks!" style="border-style:none;" alt="Get Music Tracks!"></a> <a href="http://www.myflashfetish.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://assets.myflashfetish.com/images/make-own.gif" title="Create A Playlist!" style="border-style:none;" alt="Create A Playlist!"></a><br></p></center>
</span></div></div>
</center>

<div class='maintitle'>Credits </div>
<div class="tablepad"><span class='desc'>
Skin ©
<br><br>
Side-bar © <a href="http://rpg-directory.com/">Roswenth</a><br>edited by: Sara<br>
<br>
<br>
<form style='display:inline' action="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Welcome_Home_Alice/index.php?act=idxact=Login&amp;CODE=01&amp;CookieDate=1" method="post">
<div align='left'>BoUNce BeTWeeN ThE LiN3s<br>
.switch_
<br>
<input type="text" class="forminput" size="10" name="UserName" onfocus="this.value=''" value="User Name" />
<input type='password' class='forminput' size='10' name='PassWord' onfocus="this.value=''" value='ibfrules' />
<input type='submit' class='forminput' value='Go' />
</div></font>
</form><br />

</span></div></div>
<br /></right>
</td>
<td width="720" height="100%" valign=top><% BOARD HEADER %>
<% NAVIGATION %>
<% BOARD %>
<% STATS %>
<br><br>


Any luck?

tacoes - April 21, 2008 08:27 PM (GMT)
I tried it and it moved the sidebar, but it still wouldn't show the logo.

shinylady - April 21, 2008 10:04 PM (GMT)
*Headdesk* It works fine on my test board, so it might be an issue with your CSS codes? By the way, to get a little space between the sidebar and the board, paste:

QUOTE
<td width="720" height="100%" valign=top style="padding:10px">
above the board header. That isn't likely to be causing your issue, though.

If you want to send me/post your CSS, I'll see if I can have another go.


tacoes - April 25, 2008 01:09 AM (GMT)
I tried it but it still didn't work, even switching all that stuff... I duno maybe I'm just unlucky like this.....

sarahj - April 25, 2008 01:26 AM (GMT)
If it's a logo problem now, it's most likely within your CSS. A lot of skinners have included the logo into the CSS now so it's more controllable- can you post your CSS codes so we can try and find the problem for you?

tacoes - April 25, 2008 02:02 AM (GMT)
It did have a logo, but I inserted my own, and then shiny lady sent me a different version without the 'logo' thing she was mentioning to me in pm, this is what she sent.

CODE
.board {width: 850px; background-color: 2E2E2E; border: 5px solid #444444;}

html { overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: auto; }

form { display:inline; }
img { vertical-align:middle; border:0px }
BODY { font-family: tahoma; font-size: 9px; color: #d9d9d9; margin:0px 10px 0px 10px;background-color:#222222;}
TABLE, TR, TD { font-family: tahoma; font-size: 9px; color: #d9d9d9; }
a:link, a:visited, a:active { text-decoration: none; color: #AE848B;}
a:hover { color: #E6BBC1; text-decoration:none; text-transform: uppercase; letter-spacing: -1px;}

fieldset.search { padding:6px; line-height:150% }
label { cursor:pointer; }

img.attach { border:2px outset #000000;padding:2px }

.googleroot { padding:6px; line-height:130% }
.googlechild { padding:6px; margin-left:30px; line-height:130% }
.googlebottom, .googlebottom a:link, .googlebottom a:visited, .googlebottom a:active { font-size:11px; color: #3A4F6C; }
.googlish, .googlish a:link, .googlish a:visited, .googlish a:active { font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; color:#00D; }
.googlepagelinks { font-size:1.1em; letter-spacing:1px }
.googlesmall, .googlesmall a:link, .googlesmall a:active, .googlesmall a:visited { font-size:10px; color:#434951 }

li.helprow { padding:0px; margin:0px 0px 10px 0px }
ul#help { padding:0px 0px 0px 15px }

option.cat { font-weight:bold; }
option.sub { font-weight:bold;color:#555 }
.caldate { text-align:right;font-weight:bold;font-size:11px;color:#777;background-color:#DFE6EF;padding:4px;margin:0px }

.warngood { color:green }
.warnbad { color:red }

#padandcenter { margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;text-align:center;padding:14px 0px 14px 0px }

#profilename { font-size:28px; font-weight:bold; }
#calendarname { font-size:22px; font-weight:bold; }

#photowrap { padding:6px; }
#phototitle { font-size:24px; border-bottom:1px solid black }
#photoimg { text-align:center; margin-top:15px }

#ucpmenu { line-height:150%;width:22%; border:1px solid #363636;background-color: #525252}
#ucpmenu p { padding:2px 5px 6px 9px;margin:0px; }
#ucpcontent { background-color: #525252; border:1px solid #363636;line-height:150%; width:auto }
#ucpcontent p { padding:10px;margin:0px; }

#ipsbanner { position:absolute;top:1px;right:5%; visibility: hidden; height: 0px; }
#submenu { visibility: hidden; height: 0px;}
#submenu a:link, #submenu a:visited, #submenu a:active { visibility: hidden;}
#userlinks { border:1px solid #2e2e2e; background-color: #2e2e2e}

#navstrip { font-weight:bold;padding:6px 0px 6px 0px; }

.activeuserstrip { background-color:#434343; padding:6px }

.pformstrip { background-color: #494949; color:#AE848B;font-weight:bold;padding:7px;margin-top:1px }
.pformleft { background-color: #545454; padding:6px; margin-top:1px;width:25%; border-top:1px solid #545454; border-right:1px solid #545454; }
.pformleftw { background-color: #545454; padding:6px; margin-top:1px;width:40%; border-top:1px solid #545454; border-right:1px solid #545454; }
.pformright { background-color: #545454; padding:6px; margin-top:1px;border-top:1px solid #545454; }

.post1 { background-color: #484848}
.post2 { background-color: #484848}
.postlinksbar { background-color:#434343;padding:7px;margin-top:1px;font-size:10px; background-image: url() }

.row1 { background-color: #464646}
.row2 { background-color: #464646}
.row3 { background-color: #464646}
.row4 { background-color: #464646}

.darkrow1 { background-color: #414141; color:#d9d9d9; }
.darkrow2 { background-color: #414141; color:#d9d9d9; }
.darkrow3 { background-color: #414141; color:#d9d9d9; }

.hlight { background-color: #434343}
.dlight { background-color: #434343}

.titlemedium { font-weight:bold; color:#f0f0f0; padding:7px; margin:0px; background-color: 414141;}
.titlemedium a:link, .titlemedium a:visited, .titlemedium a:active { text-decoration: underline; color: #3A4F6C }

.maintitle { vertical-align:middle;font-weight:bold; color:#AE848B; letter-spacing:1px; padding:5px 0px 5px 0px; background-image: url(); background-color:363636; border: 1px 545454;}
.maintitle a:link, .maintitle a:visited, .maintitle a:active { text-decoration: none; color: #AE848B;}
.maintitle a:hover { text-decoration: underline; cursor: default; }

.plainborder { border:1px solid #464646;background-color:#464646}
.tableborder { border:2px solid #363636;background-color:#464646; padding:0px; margin:0px; width:100% }
.tablefill { border:none;background-color:#606060;padding:6px; }
.tablepad { background-color:#606060;padding:6px }
.tablebasic { width:100%; padding:0px 0px 0px 0px; margin:0px; border:0px }

.wrapmini { float:left;line-height:1.5em;width:25% }
.pagelinks { float:left;line-height:1.2em;width:35% }

.desc { font-size:10px; color:#d9d9d9 }
.edit { font-size: 9px }

.signature { font-size: 10px; color: #d9d9d9; }
.postdetails { font-size: 10px }
.postcolor { font-size: 10px; line-height: 100% }

.normalname { font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; color: #d9d9d9 }
.normalname a:link, .normalname a:visited, .normalname a:active { font-size: 11px }
.unreg { font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; color: #d0d0d0;}

.searchlite { font-weight:bold; color:#F00; background-color:#434343}

#QUOTE { font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 11px; color: #d9d9d9; background-color: #545454; border: 1px solid #000; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 2px }
#CODE { font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 10px; color: #d9d9d9; background-color: #545454; border: 1px solid #000; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 2px }

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I hope it work this time XD After putting Shiny through all that and all

tacoes - May 17, 2008 06:57 PM (GMT)
BTW this worked, and thanks a million guys

sarahj - August 7, 2008 07:17 AM (GMT)
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